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09-04-2025 | 07:26 AM
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09-04-2025 | 08:26 AM
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09-04-2025 | 10:03 AM
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Hopefully. Or we will still see 700 flights on peak days and 200 on off days and tons of pilots sitting reserve, no flying for them, COLAs, and lines with 10hr 3 days being the norm.
09-04-2025 | 10:08 AM
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I remember a big consumer product retailer out of a small city in Ark that used the model of going into tons of smaller markets and underselling all the mom and pop stores and pharmacies on household items like toilet paper, school supplies and cheap clothes. They sold everything - tires and other auto accessories, small furniture, TVs, eggs and even gas. They were the one stop shop w/ low prices.
People flocked to them and away from their neighborhood store they had shopped for years. The store's name was Wal-Mart. Eventually, those smaller shops went out of business.
As soon as that happened, Wal Mart raised prices.
Why wouldn't United do the same in FLL? Especially considering NK's 6% market share.
NK going away is not going to benefit F9 as much as people think - it's just one less competitor for the Big 4 to deal w/.
People flocked to them and away from their neighborhood store they had shopped for years. The store's name was Wal-Mart. Eventually, those smaller shops went out of business.
As soon as that happened, Wal Mart raised prices.
Why wouldn't United do the same in FLL? Especially considering NK's 6% market share.
NK going away is not going to benefit F9 as much as people think - it's just one less competitor for the Big 4 to deal w/.
09-04-2025 | 10:12 AM
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While this seems like it's the case, it most certainly is NOT.
Shoppers can visit WalMart, JC Penny, Dillards and Macy's all at once via Expedia, Travelocity, etc. Since most people who don't have any loyalty shop by price, Dillards, Macy's and Penney's can all afford to match WalMarts prices (which are very limited) in the single shopping market which has all products at the same time. Right now, F9 has about 20ish destinations from Atlanta. DL has about 50. I'm sure they can match our 20 w/ little impact to their pockets. We share bases w/ every airline except for Tampa.
No one is leaving NK just to shop F9 and now the Big 3 have only 1 company to match. About the only hope F9 has is to entice those NK CC holders and loyalty program members to now join ours.
Or change the model.
Shoppers can visit WalMart, JC Penny, Dillards and Macy's all at once via Expedia, Travelocity, etc. Since most people who don't have any loyalty shop by price, Dillards, Macy's and Penney's can all afford to match WalMarts prices (which are very limited) in the single shopping market which has all products at the same time. Right now, F9 has about 20ish destinations from Atlanta. DL has about 50. I'm sure they can match our 20 w/ little impact to their pockets. We share bases w/ every airline except for Tampa.
No one is leaving NK just to shop F9 and now the Big 3 have only 1 company to match. About the only hope F9 has is to entice those NK CC holders and loyalty program members to now join ours.
Or change the model.
09-05-2025 | 08:02 AM
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09-05-2025 | 11:32 AM
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You either fill those airplanes to the max with low paying customers.
Fill them halfway with high paying customers.
Or make money thru other means such as ancillaries, credit cards, etc.
it’s a wet dream to serve these cities 3x a day everyday. The planes will go and comeback empty.
that’s why legacies have various seating #s, various classes/configurarions, and B scale regionals.
09-05-2025 | 12:08 PM
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
unfortunately you can’t go some places once a day or x3 a day everyday on 240/230 or even 190 seat airplanes.
You either fill those airplanes to the max with low paying customers.
Fill them halfway with high paying customers.
Or make money thru other means such as ancillaries, credit cards, etc.
it’s a wet dream to serve these cities 3x a day everyday. The planes will go and comeback empty.
that’s why legacies have various seating #s, various classes/configurarions, and B scale regionals.
You either fill those airplanes to the max with low paying customers.
Fill them halfway with high paying customers.
Or make money thru other means such as ancillaries, credit cards, etc.
it’s a wet dream to serve these cities 3x a day everyday. The planes will go and comeback empty.
that’s why legacies have various seating #s, various classes/configurarions, and B scale regionals.
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