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Old 04-15-2026 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
no april, may or June meetings
May be a blessing in disguise. Any word on the early opener ask from DL?
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Old 04-15-2026 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
May be a blessing in disguise. Any word on the early opener ask from DL?
Not relevant according to our union leadership and the negotiating committee. ALPA national has convinced all parties that we aren’t worthy of legacy pay. Heck, our initial pay proposal was already short of their *last* contract. Our “representation” will refuse to amend our numbers because “we’ll appear to be negotiating in bad faith.” Feel free to tag this post for future reference. History repeats itself.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
Not relevant according to our union leadership and the negotiating committee. ALPA national has convinced all parties that we aren’t worthy of legacy pay. Heck, our initial pay proposal was already short of their *last* contract. Our “representation” will refuse to amend our numbers because “we’ll appear to be negotiating in bad faith.” Feel free to tag this post for future reference. History repeats itself.
Accept that the rate numbers were amended last round to whatever jb ta numbers were when that happened. No reason to tag an incorrect post.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
Not relevant according to our union leadership and the negotiating committee. ALPA national has convinced all parties that we aren’t worthy of legacy pay. Heck, our initial pay proposal was already short of their *last* contract. Our “representation” will refuse to amend our numbers because “we’ll appear to be negotiating in bad faith.” Feel free to tag this post for future reference. History repeats itself.
ALPA National has not convinced anyone that we are not worthy of equal pay... stop spreading misinformation.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
ALPA National has not convinced anyone that we are not worthy of equal pay... stop spreading misinformation.
ALPA national doesn't have to, our MEC/NC already believes it. CTL-ALT-DEL the whole thing. It’s going to be years no matter what, might as well use the time to pump the septic tank.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
ALPA national doesn't have to, our MEC/NC already believes it. CTL-ALT-DEL the whole thing. It’s going to be years no matter what, might as well use the time to pump the septic tank.
We can start with 169
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Old 04-16-2026 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
ALPA national doesn't have to, our MEC/NC already believes it. CTL-ALT-DEL the whole thing. It’s going to be years no matter what, might as well use the time to pump the septic tank.
Maybe you, open climb, res captain, and dracir will step up. Anyone here last time that was unhappy. I won’t hold my breath.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 06:26 AM
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If there is any truth to us being parked over our own unions inability to get our house in order, then we need to start discussing refunds on all of our dues. And, time to clean house.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Maybe you, open climb, res captain, and dracir will step up. Anyone here last time that was unhappy. I won’t hold my breath.
I think we both agree that full scale changing of union representation (and/or the NC) is not advisable. Every contract time, EVERY airline has the same issues and APC bloggers all say the same thing.

The issue is the PILOTS. US. In the end, WE vote in (or out) TAs. No need to get mad at the union or NC.

Follow the example of UA last cycle.
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Old 04-16-2026 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostRider22
If there is any truth to us being parked over our own unions inability to get our house in order, then we need to start discussing refunds on all of our dues. And, time to clean house.
We followed the rules and we played by the system. We asked to get released 6 months ago and now we are parked.

This system is broken.
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