Originally Posted by Mesabi

I try to avoid posting here but this is important.

Let’s fact check BL ourselves. He says F9 ALPA proposed pay rates higher than legacy 320 rates.

Well, I just so happen to have United’s 2024 pay table right here: https://d2r1lrrqctgamh.cloudfront.net/UAL/TA/upa23-2023-09-29.
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UA 2024 Airbus rates for 12 year captain are as follows:

A319,A319neo,A320,A320neo all pay $358.97

A321: $360.85

A321neo,A321xlr: $374.36

F9 ALPA did not propose separate pay rates for each variant of the A320 family but rather proposed one blended rate for all A320 types.

the 2024 F9 12 year captain proposed rate is $364.90.

so yes, on the surface ALPA proposed a higher rate than “legacy A320” pay rates (notice BL didn’t mention 321s? Convenient.)

BUT!! What if you average out the three different United rates into one blended rate? It comes to $364.73. So F9 ALPA asked for a whopping 17 CENTS more per hour.

BL is a lying union buster. He is intentionally twisting and misrepresenting facts to undermine our union’s efforts.

Everytime you read or watch something from BL or any other management stooge, do so with this at the forefront of your mind: these management stooges are actively trying to suppress and destroy your pay and quality of life in order to line their own pockets off your hard work. They are not working with you but actively working directly against you.

Originally Posted by Beans Johnston

Totally agree!! BL seemed like he was straining and in pain as well as visibly mad in that video. Maybe they need a PR person to express their feelings?

Originally Posted by Windsor

Get used to it. It's going to be many years of the same garbage. Contract 2030.......

Originally Posted by Planedrive

At this point 2030 seems optimistic.


Frontier has an endless supply of cadets and a facebook full of captains fighting over wanting to pick up more premium.

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and mgmnt LOVES IT

Originally Posted by fivebyfive

Solidarity is paramount. The F9 pilot group realizes that and is anxious to fall in line behind some agressive union leadership. But fecklessness won't rally the troups.

Originally Posted by fivebyfive

Solidarity is paramount. The F9 pilot group realizes that and is anxious to fall in line behind some agressive union leadership. But fecklessness won't rally the troups.

Originally Posted by spooldup

This for sure.

Our current leadership feels like they are bending their knees and not doing what they can... Enjoying their FPL on the backs of thousands. Hopefully some newly elected guys will help out with that and get some new energy into the tight knit circle. I put communication as the number 1 reason why I feel like our union is lacking. There isn't much and anything they do say sometimes feels like nothing anyways.

I love the strike bus, but I haven't seen it plastered all over social media or anything. No great posts that get shared across platforms like SWAPA, and no billboards around town/airports like Delta did. Nothing is being told to newhires/cadets/hopefuls to be weary or advising them of actual conditions instead of the 5 bullets on the recruitment posters.