Originally Posted by hercretired

by the time Frontier has a contract, Delta etc will be re-upping their contracts.

Originally Posted by ReserveCA

This management/ownership group gives absolutely ZERO value to its pilots..........
fly the contract.
file grievance when necessary.
collect pay on 5th and 20th.
ENJOY family and friends on as many days off you can get!

Originally Posted by flensr

Negotiations don't really start until one side or the other puts effective pressure on the other side. I remember hearing that IROPS triggering cancelled vacations caused quite a stir. Brand yellow got the restraining order for the fake work slowdown. SWAPA effectively gave SWA the bird after SWA made multiple ineffective attempts to intimidate the pilot group through furlough WARN notices right before Christmas, attempts to get force majeure wording and pay cuts pushed through, and multiple agreements to formalize status quo violations during negotiations. In each case, one side found a lever and used it. It didn't matter that for brand yellow, the restraining order worked against them in the end because both sides had to make significant compromises (big boy payscale vs. PBS is one example). The point is that until one side is able to effectively tip the scales with significant pressure, it's all just so much preparation of the battlefield.

Originally Posted by Nemack85

You guys can do it! 💪

Originally Posted by dracir1

Thanks for the positivity but I doubt we can - pilot force to disjointed/non-unified.

Originally Posted by buzzer

Agree with this. The company obviously has no interest in a contract At this time. So it's up to the pilots to apply that pressure. It's up to you pilots to do this. The union can't do what you can do collectively as individuals. No "work action" needs to take place. Simply enforcing your contract, always flying safely, never waiving anything you're not required to, not picking up extra flying, etc. will definitely have an impact. As long as these things aren't done and the company is not motivated, you are costing your own selves and your colleagues money and quality of life increases.