You’ll take what BB gives you and you will like it. No strike for you! NEXT!!

 

By the sounds of it they don’t want to give anything.. just take concessions.

It’s definitely disappointing our Chief Pilot is negotiating against his pilots. No wonder morale is at an all time low.

 

Chief pilots may be on the seniority list, but they are Management. And Brian has absolutely no power to negotiate anything that BB does not want him to negotiate. As management he acts in the shareholders’ best interest, not ours.

 

Is having a Chief pilot negotiate for the company normal across the industry, or is this just an Indigo practice to continue to beat us into the ground and break us?

 

WHO CARES?!?!?!?!

The chief pilot is a mgt puppet. Who didn't know that already? They don't call you and tell you good job. They don't defend you to the upper mgt about a situation that might be questionable. In fact, they're the ones who are probably recommending whatever discipline you get. The most positive they might ever do for you is help you out when you have a family emergency (or get sick yourself) and mail you a 10 yr pin. These actions aren't exceptional, they're what any manager should do at an company.

The system CP is a mid level management position that is not glamourous, achieved through exemplary performance or even indicative of a great pilot. It's a job most people don't want except for those who want to become mgt. All that's required is to a$$ kiss in the invterview. And the pay is crap.

There are great base CPs out there (Vegas has an excellent one) but other than that, i couldn't care less if the system CP, ES or anyone else from the CPO sat across the table in negotiations.

 

The VP of ops normally negotiates. Oh wait. We don’t have one of those. He quit. Disregard

 

Exactly. That's why he was there. Doesn't matter.

The company will drag their feet as long as they possibly can. That's all that's going on here.

 

have a CP or vp of ops “negotiate” is just a stall technique. Neither one had (in brads case) or has any authority to negotiate. Barry has no plan on negotiating twice. Why would he. They have been in talks with NK for a while now. If they can pull off this acquisition they will be immediately be required to start a JCBA negotiation. Until they buy NK or, the judge lets them go off an attempt a recovery on their own we are not getting a contract.

 

this "in communication with Spirit" and "need to finalize Spirit deal first" stuff will add 2+ years to contract talks

yes, I am serious

 

I disagree, I think a merger would shorten the timeline. A jcba is something they'd have to do. RLA standard negotiations could take 6-7 years.