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Old 12-19-2024 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzer
"With the financials public, who really thinks F9 can afford a new contract?"
That is exactly the mindset the company loves you to have. Let's stay underpaid so they can reward themselves. When the price of fuel goes up, companies adjust. Same with labor costs. I've yet to see ever an airline who went out of business because their pilot costs were too high.
I still can't believe ANYONE would think this way. I mean REALLY? I don't deserve (or shouldn't even ask for) a raise because my company doesn't make money?

When just about every other similar company that doesn't have a crippling equipment issue is?
When the CEO of my company makes $8M (far more than Spirit, Allegiant and some others) even though his salary is mostly dependent cashing in stocks (and that's with a stock price that has dropped from $20 to about $5)?
When we're one of the VERY FEW companies that doesn't offer true first class, wifi, decent food or reclining seats?
When it took this company YEARS to discover the cost of going around WAT airspace far exceeded purchasing HF radios, flying through it and saving passengers hours?
When we carry more passengers than some other airlines do w/ their 767s?
When we're the only pilot group OFFICIALLY asked by the VP of Flt Ops to wear a costume bear glove/claw and waive at passengers and smile?

ARE YOU F'ING KIDDING ME????

If you think we don't deserve MORE than most other airlines, do me and everyone else a favor and don't vote on the next contract. That's all I ask of you...
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Old 12-19-2024 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
I still can't believe ANYONE would think this way. I mean REALLY? I don't deserve (or shouldn't even ask for) a raise because my company doesn't make money?

When just about every other similar company that doesn't have a crippling equipment issue is?
When the CEO of my company makes $8M (far more than Spirit, Allegiant and some others) even though his salary is mostly dependent cashing in stocks (and that's with a stock price that has dropped from $20 to about $5)?
When we're one of the VERY FEW companies that doesn't offer true first class, wifi, decent food or reclining seats?
When it took this company YEARS to discover the cost of going around WAT airspace far exceeded purchasing HF radios, flying through it and saving passengers hours?
When we carry more passengers than some other airlines do w/ their 767s?
When we're the only pilot group OFFICIALLY asked by the VP of Flt Ops to wear a costume bear glove/claw and waive at passengers and smile?

ARE YOU F'ING KIDDING ME????

If you think we don't deserve MORE than most other airlines, do me and everyone else a favor and don't vote on the next contract. That's all I ask of you...
Hear hear!
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Old 12-19-2024 | 07:21 AM
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Next hurdle........ get released
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Old 12-19-2024 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
I still can't believe ANYONE would think this way. I mean REALLY? I don't deserve (or shouldn't even ask for) a raise because my company doesn't make money?

When just about every other similar company that doesn't have a crippling equipment issue is?
When the CEO of my company makes $8M (far more than Spirit, Allegiant and some others) even though his salary is mostly dependent cashing in stocks (and that's with a stock price that has dropped from $20 to about $5)?
When we're one of the VERY FEW companies that doesn't offer true first class, wifi, decent food or reclining seats?
When it took this company YEARS to discover the cost of going around WAT airspace far exceeded purchasing HF radios, flying through it and saving passengers hours?
When we carry more passengers than some other airlines do w/ their 767s?
When we're the only pilot group OFFICIALLY asked by the VP of Flt Ops to wear a costume bear glove/claw and waive at passengers and smile?

ARE YOU F'ING KIDDING ME????


If you think we don't deserve MORE than most other airlines, do me and everyone else a favor and don't vote on the next contract. That's all I ask of you...
This 100%.
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Old 12-19-2024 | 08:59 AM
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agreed with all above. No need to do the company's negotiating.
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Old 01-04-2025 | 06:41 AM
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New contract just like F9s on time....... DEAD LAST
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Old 01-04-2025 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spooldup
This 100%.
didn't know the bear paw was an official thing, holy sh#t.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 08:28 AM
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CYA.....this place will throw you under the bus....
slow down and check the logbook, make sure any MELs don't contradict, do a thorough pre and post flight, do NOT accept broken A/C.....
do NOT bring illness to work...

leave work at work
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Old 01-05-2025 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ReserveCA
CYA.....this place will throw you under the bus....
slow down and check the logbook, make sure any MELs don't contradict, do a thorough pre and post flight, do NOT accept broken A/C.....
do NOT bring illness to work...

leave work at work
MCC will tell you to go when it is absolutely not ok to go. You know who they come down on if you get busted?…You know who gets to keep their job?…

That’s right.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoBrksMedium
MCC will tell you to go when it is absolutely not ok to go. You know who they come down on if you get busted?…You know who gets to keep their job?…

That’s right.
Curious what some examples are of this.

I haven't had any issues with things I have found and they have been fixed or flight canceled. Never have been pushed by anyone at this company.
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