I heard otherwise, but i guess i stand corrected.

 

At least one had 20 plus sick calls. Tried to claim Fmla which you aren’t eligible for first year. Can’t remember if it was him or the other that went off on the chief pilot in the hearing? I wasn’t personally involved with that but after hearing the details the union didn’t have a lot of options to defend with. This would be a challenge for the union and a probationary pilot irregardless of negotiations.

as a side note the union will defend sec 19 for probationary pilots and probationary pilots should file disputes when the contract is violated. More than likely your dispute will just get lumped in with the other similar language violations depending on what happened. It’s certainly possible you’ll just get paid out if there’s already a standing remedy the company has agreed to.

 

Yup, there's even more to the story BUT the record was that the company DID axe two pilots for sick time abuse when negotiations got sporty.

 

Yes but I’m fairly confident that would have happened outside negotiations. The point is probationary pilots don’t need to be walking around afraid of being terminated for anything other than incompetent flying. Or I guess 20 sick when I’m on Fmla but not really and swearing at a chief pilot. Lol.

 

The key word would be abuse. They were fired for abusing sick time. Not wearing lanyards.

 

I was worried about wearing the lanyard in training but quickly realized no one cares. You should def be wearing it once you hit the line. No point in waiting till youre off probation.

 

I like the look of the green strike lanyards and have been wearing it. I've been surprised by the amount of questions I have received from it, both from passengers and from other airline crew members (many were not aware of our situation).

The bold 'strike' message is more prevalent I think than the orange lanyards and gets attention, and so far I've personally seen a much bigger reaction to it than the recent orange ones or the ones from our last round.

With that being said, I am ready to strike now, or even participate in a large scale illegal job action (I know, save the lecture).

 

I'm on probation and I proudly wear my lanyard. I'm 5th generation union so to see others, especially other new hires, refuse to wear it and join our solidarity is disheartening. Just my opinion.

 

Does anyone remember what our ratification bonus represented last time around versus how much we would have made if the contract had been ratified by day 1 of the amendmendable date as a percentage? No where near the 100% that post amendmendable date contracts negotiated in good faith by pilot unions should be, but just curious? I'm expecting similar retro this time, but would be very pro pushing for more. Holding out for more retro may sting in the present, but make the company think twice about not negotiating in good faith in the next cycle. Probably not though, as every percent below 100 is a cost savings to the company. I feel like it was slightly different for those of us that were also owed loa 67 payment, which isn’t applicable this time around.

I can dig into it myself, but I thought somebody here might readily have that info. Thanks.

 

Everyone was owed loa 67 retro. Rates should have been higher on a date (retro started for anyone on property this date and everyone after this date) outline in 67 which was before the amendable date. Having said that your correct in that retro was higher to account for this period of time. My retro was more than double my nk counterpart. No idea what % of what it should have been but it was somewhere around 100 million. It was not based on w2. Based on differences in rates, old/new, (during amendable period) for each individual pilot. This is so we’re not rewarding pilots for running around picking up everything in sight.