How long for a contract?
10-12-2025 | 11:46 AM
#2031
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Thats like saying strip away CC benefits and perks from legacies and see how they do....
If you are on the FB group, I suggest going and looking at some recent graphs and write up a certain financial guy turned pilot wrote.
Essentially, F9 is making it look meh right now due to SLB transactions and pre paying. A noticeable shift that happened right when negotiations opened.
If you are on the FB group, I suggest going and looking at some recent graphs and write up a certain financial guy turned pilot wrote.
Essentially, F9 is making it look meh right now due to SLB transactions and pre paying. A noticeable shift that happened right when negotiations opened.
I find it hard to believe one of our pilots is smarter than Wall Street’s analysts that specialize in airline financials. But yes, maybe this is some crazy elaborate scheme by Barry to hide cash. He crashes the stock price by 3-5 billion to save 100 million on pilot salaries per year. 😜
10-12-2025 | 12:00 PM
#2032
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Thats like saying strip away CC benefits and perks from legacies and see how they do....
If you are on the FB group, I suggest going and looking at some recent graphs and write up a certain financial guy turned pilot wrote.
Essentially, F9 is making it look meh right now due to SLB transactions and pre paying. A noticeable shift that happened right when negotiations opened.
If you are on the FB group, I suggest going and looking at some recent graphs and write up a certain financial guy turned pilot wrote.
Essentially, F9 is making it look meh right now due to SLB transactions and pre paying. A noticeable shift that happened right when negotiations opened.
You might as well take that PIC time with you and get started over at a legacy now before 2000 of your best friends are trying to do the same.
10-12-2025 | 12:12 PM
#2033
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A bankruptcy is meant to fix a company overburdened with bad debt or old planes. A bankruptcy can not fix a broken business model that requires you to give away free tickets to fill planes.
10-12-2025 | 12:24 PM
#2034
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10-12-2025 | 01:42 PM
#2035
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I didn't foresee any major improvements though, based on the guidance issued in conjunction with 2Q results back in August.
F9's 2Q loss was -.31 cents per share. Their 3Q guidance was -.26 to -.41. Could be slightly better than the .31 or maybe worse. That's why I stuck with status quo.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com/news-rele...ancial-results
Do you see something different?
10-12-2025 | 05:39 PM
#2037
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From: seated - facing forward
10-12-2025 | 06:19 PM
#2038
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I mostly agree with this statement, but would change it to, “Full industry standard pay till the last day!”
It is not our job to subsidize management’s poor business decisions. Pay me the going rate for what I do. Our working for 60% pay is not going to fix a failed business model or poor management.
Indido Partners is a private equity firm which still owns a controlling interest in Frontier Airlines. They are millionaires and mostly billionaires. I shouldn’t have to subsidize them with my substandard pay.
If they claim that they can not afford to pay us, then they should be compensating us with stock in the company from their own ownership percentages.
It is not our job to subsidize management’s poor business decisions. Pay me the going rate for what I do. Our working for 60% pay is not going to fix a failed business model or poor management.
Indido Partners is a private equity firm which still owns a controlling interest in Frontier Airlines. They are millionaires and mostly billionaires. I shouldn’t have to subsidize them with my substandard pay.
If they claim that they can not afford to pay us, then they should be compensating us with stock in the company from their own ownership percentages.
10-12-2025 | 06:23 PM
#2039
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Those graphs were cute, but they only highlight a tiny sliver of a much uglier reality. If it were really that simple, our stock wouldn’t be down 80% since IPO. If Biff truly believed the stock was about to turn around and he was just hiding money, would he have just dumped half his shares at an 80% discount to IPO levels? That doesn’t exactly scream confidence from the top.
I find it hard to believe one of our pilots is smarter than Wall Street’s analysts that specialize in airline financials. But yes, maybe this is some crazy elaborate scheme by Barry to hide cash. He crashes the stock price by 3-5 billion to save 100 million on pilot salaries per year. 😜
I find it hard to believe one of our pilots is smarter than Wall Street’s analysts that specialize in airline financials. But yes, maybe this is some crazy elaborate scheme by Barry to hide cash. He crashes the stock price by 3-5 billion to save 100 million on pilot salaries per year. 😜
Why would BB be in the drivers seat as long as he has been if something isn't working?
Why does the board keep voting him in? Why if BF going to FLL? No one knows what is going on, but this place is packing planes with an 85-90%+ load factor on every flight (at least that I have flown), why are we not making money on that? Why do we not increase ticket prices... nothing makes sense to us, but it does to them...
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