exactly….Between that, losing experienced crew to big 4 this fall, the overhanging tailstrike risk, and already terrible on-time performance… It would behoove them to finish it sooner than later. Then again with this c suite team, who knows.

this made me giggle

Yeah unfortunately I don't think the company is feeling any pressure from this at all.

The average airline contract negotiated under the RLA is 3+ year process? So realistically Delta is at a minimum of 3 years from a new contract, more likely 4. That just isn't going to motivate management to sign a deal before we get a chance to see what Delta is cooking up.

We are just stuck in a bad spot contract cycle wise. I think our best bet long term is to hope the company caves to the unions ask of this only being a 3 year deal.

But also how much more can delta ask for other than modest raises and a few things here and there? Could be the easiest negotiation ever as long as their company isn't looking for concessions (which I doubt).

We’d better hope not. Modest contract increases at the legacies in the face of more substantial contract increases at the ULCCs would literally be the very cost convergence that the likes of Kirby et al. are bragging will kill off the ULCCs (us).

Contract Talks still not resolved

FedEx: since 2021. federal mediation in 2022

ATI: since 2020

Allegiant: since 2021 or 2022 (?)

with an average time of 4+ years to get a contract, 2028 is looking bright !

There are many things to fix in the Delta contract. But I don’t think it will take 3-4 years like someone else said. Last round took a bit longer due to coming out of Covid. Once negotiations started with mediation, it took about 1yr for a AIP.

Alpa is starting to do polls this month and we are still 1yr and 5 months before our contract is “expired”. It wouldn’t suprise me if they start early negotiations in January (like previous contracts).

I will also expect some modest pay increases. If it pases beyond Dec 2026, retro pay is also on the table.

"retro pay is on the table"

of course it is

first time poster ?

ok so our union calls for a status meeting. Hypothetically it goes exactly the way our union want it to go. What happens then? are we released after a cooling off period? Do we get the proposed contract or can we ask for more?

Before any one says "XYZ is not happening " that is not what I am asking. I want to know what the maximum potential upside is.

The goal is to get an actual member(s) of the NMB to take a look at what has been happening during mediated negotiations, and push the parties forward. This is also the first step in moving beyond mediation to proffer of binding arbitration. After the proffer, and assuming that one of the parties refuses, comes the 30 day cooling off period.

This is an ALPA doc that details the steps in Section 6. It doesn't call it a "status conference", but we are at the top of p.4

https://crewroom.alpa.org/alafa/Port...06%20Final.pdf