Frontier Hiring.
10-01-2016 | 05:01 PM
#5623
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Good question. I don't think there is any way that is going to happen. I've heard a BOD member saying it was going to take six months. That was probably six months ago. So.....
I sure hope I'm wrong though.
I sure hope I'm wrong though.
10-01-2016 | 06:05 PM
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The union never said it would be completed first quarter of 2017. They said it was their goal to have a new contract within a year contingent upon Frontier management's co-operation. That obviously hasn't happened. The three years it took Spirit to get released is probably a good ballpark figure for us. Only 30 months to go! Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
10-01-2016 | 08:32 PM
#5625
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From: CRJ-200 CA
Excuse my naïveté here but perhaps the NMB would see past practices and not take 3 years to release us... the whole point of managements proposal to us was to drag this bs out... no dhd pay?? Ok we'll give you 75%... negotiating in good faith... no trip rig? Ok we'll give you 3.6:1... negotiating in good faith... no union input on hotels? Ok they have a say but the room can't cost more than $20/night.... negotiating in good faith... they can give us little things here and there and drag this out for a lonnnnnnng time... our only hope is someone on the NMB has some scruples and realizes the game they're playing... otherwise it's gonna be cat and mouse for many moons... indigo won't give us diddly poo until they absolutely HAVE to
10-01-2016 | 09:01 PM
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Excuse my naïveté here but perhaps the NMB would see past practices and not take 3 years to release us... the whole point of managements proposal to us was to drag this bs out... no dhd pay?? Ok we'll give you 75%... negotiating in good faith... no trip rig? Ok we'll give you 3.6:1... negotiating in good faith... no union input on hotels? Ok they have a say but the room can't cost more than $20/night.... negotiating in good faith... they can give us little things here and there and drag this out for a lonnnnnnng time... our only hope is someone on the NMB has some scruples and realizes the game they're playing... otherwise it's gonna be cat and mouse for many moons... indigo won't give us diddly poo until they absolutely HAVE to
I would agree with you and the similar sentiment of many here that this is the case, however, I truly believe that supply and demand for pilots is going to force the company's hand much sooner. This pilot group just needs to stay true to our resolve, and not settle for anything less than going rate for A320 pilots in the industry despite whatever threats and lies come our way from management.
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10-02-2016 | 08:08 AM
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I would agree with you and the similar sentiment of many here that this is the case, however, I truly believe that supply and demand for pilots is going to force the company's hand much sooner. This pilot group just needs to stay true to our resolve, and not settle for anything less than going rate for A320 pilots in the industry despite whatever threats and lies come our way from management.
10-02-2016 | 10:22 AM
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Centre for Aviation's speculation on a Frontier IPO.
Cliff notes: F9's on-time performance sh!t the bed and will have to improve before gaining pricing traction on the public market - F9's investors are better off to wait until early 2017.
Frontier Airlines' on-time performance hiccups in summer 2016; IPO still in abeyance | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
Cliff notes: F9's on-time performance sh!t the bed and will have to improve before gaining pricing traction on the public market - F9's investors are better off to wait until early 2017.
Frontier Airlines' on-time performance hiccups in summer 2016; IPO still in abeyance | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
10-02-2016 | 12:41 PM
#5629
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From: 1900D CA
Centre for Aviation's speculation on a Frontier IPO.
Cliff notes: F9's on-time performance sh!t the bed and will have to improve before gaining pricing traction on the public market - F9's investors are better off to wait until early 2017.
Frontier Airlines' on-time performance hiccups in summer 2016; IPO still in abeyance | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
Cliff notes: F9's on-time performance sh!t the bed and will have to improve before gaining pricing traction on the public market - F9's investors are better off to wait until early 2017.
Frontier Airlines' on-time performance hiccups in summer 2016; IPO still in abeyance | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
Frontiers IPO may still be a ways off. They should have plenty of time to figure out how to run an airline on time
10-02-2016 | 12:47 PM
#5630
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I agree. Look at what happened at Republic. Bedford treated his pilots like crap, stalled negotiations for 9+ years then had to file for bankruptcy because they couldn't staff the airline. Even after giving them a regional leading contract they can't get anyone to show up for class because the damage was already done. We are able to fill the classes now with much smaller numbers but if the growth actually happens they predict things are going to get interesting.
I sure hope our management team learned from that, but I doubt it. Reputation matters
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