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Old 09-30-2016 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by F9 Driver
Did you mean "...never makes it to the pilots...."? Never say never
Oh, yeah. Booze and autocorrect don't mix.
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Old 09-30-2016 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
Oh, yeah. Booze and autocorrect don't mix.
Doesn't really matter what our ask is. We're not going to get one extra cent until we get released. By then Delta will be negotiating their next contract.
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Old 09-30-2016 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
Delta Pilot's Negotiating Committee just reached an AIP with Management

Hourly pay raises of 18%/3%/3%/4%

Full retro from Jan 1 2016

No change to Profit Sharing

No change to RJ's from current PWA

Vacation increases 3:30 day on 4/1/17
3:45 day for first 14 days of vacation on 4/1/19
All vacation value applies towards line construction

increases to 16% DPSP contribution on Jan 1, 2017



CQ Training Pay increases to 4:00 day Jan 1 2017

Sick Leave TA amended sick leave AIP to add provision establishing that catastrophic injury or illness is not counted toward the lookback verification threshold

Amendable Dec 31, 2019
What kind of scheduling?
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Old 09-30-2016 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
What kind of scheduling?
You will have to wait for the TA to be published (assuming the MEC elects to send it the the pilot group for a vote).
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Old 09-30-2016 | 07:16 PM
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Unless there are a bunch of Easter eggs hiding in the TA, I assume the Delta pilots will ratify this offer. With their hourly rates plus profit sharing, after over a decade of crap pay, U.S. pilots will finally be approaching pre-9/11 rates (yes that doesn't include inflation). $300,000 in 2001 is equivalent to $413,000 in today's dollars. U.S. pilots still have some room to go up.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
Agreed. Now that I see these other airlines getting better and better contracts, I would vote NO on the current proposal. And that's before any "negotiations" lower those numbers. $240 was my bottom number. That number continues to climb.
$240 is your bottom number and our proposal is $245, so what am I missing?
You would vote no to $245/hr, 16%DC contribution, 5:15 Min day, 1-3:5 trig rig, 200% JA/VJA pay, 100% DH, $2.30/hr per diem, night and intl override, elimination of the working spouse and additional child surcharge, broadening and strengthening of Section 1. In all fairness, there has not been a ton of info about scheduling, vacation or sick time, but, no vote?? YGTBSM.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeybrains
$240 is your bottom number and our proposal is $245, so what am I missing?
You would vote no to $245/hr, 16%DC contribution, 5:15 Min day, 1-3:5 trig rig, 200% JA/VJA pay, 100% DH, $2.30/hr per diem, night and intl override, elimination of the working spouse and additional child surcharge, broadening and strengthening of Section 1. In all fairness, there has not been a ton of info about scheduling, vacation or sick time, but, no vote?? YGTBSM.
personally as a f9 pilot i am not going to say YES or NO bc management probably reads this, however 73/320 pay is rising and we are profitable airline that needs to be compensated accordingly.
LOA67 proposed rates seem to be so low compared to what is going on now with other airlines.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 02:08 PM
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I believe the LOA67 interim pay proposal was intended to be MORE than reasonable, with the thought that an arbitrator would see it the same way. And awards from arbitration are typically retroactive (back to the date the grievance was filed). If we shot for the moon on the LOA67 interim pay proposal, the arbitrator likely wouldn't agree with those rate increases - instead it was MORE than reasonable and the arbitrator is more likely to side with the union's proposal. It's a game and the union is playing to win. So far I think the decision-making by our union has been excellent.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeybrains
$240 is your bottom number and our proposal is $245, so what am I missing?
You would vote no to $245/hr, 16%DC contribution, 5:15 Min day, 1-3:5 trig rig, 200% JA/VJA pay, 100% DH, $2.30/hr per diem, night and intl override, elimination of the working spouse and additional child surcharge, broadening and strengthening of Section 1. In all fairness, there has not been a ton of info about scheduling, vacation or sick time, but, no vote?? YGTBSM.
Do you really think that is where we're gonna be come vote time with those asks? YGTBFSM.

But yes, it's too low at this point in time.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Took spirit 3 years to get released from negotiating with indigo.
That's Good we are already a 1/3 of the way there........
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