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Old 01-11-2017, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
You are not. I saw the full list and your margin was 16% I believe. Approximately number 17ish or so, but that's just going by rough memory.
I'd say your memory is quite rough, as F9 is a private company and does not report those numbers, and therefore should not be on the list. Any numbers that have been thrown out regarding F9's margin is purely based on DOT numbers; no one but Frontier execs, Indigo, and the banks they hired have any idea what the real numbers look like. I'm sure F9 is not the best but fairly good, and it's useless to speculate further.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
I'd say your memory is quite rough, as F9 is a private company and does not report those numbers, and therefore should not be on the list. Any numbers that have been thrown out regarding F9's margin is purely based on DOT numbers; no one but Frontier execs, Indigo, and the banks they hired have any idea what the real numbers look like. I'm sure F9 is not the best but fairly good, and it's useless to speculate further.
http://airlineweekly.com/JAN09.pdf
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Old 01-11-2017, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
I'd say your memory is quite rough, as F9 is a private company and does not report those numbers, and therefore should not be on the list. Any numbers that have been thrown out regarding F9's margin is purely based on DOT numbers; no one but Frontier execs, Indigo, and the banks they hired have any idea what the real numbers look like. I'm sure F9 is not the best but fairly good, and it's useless to speculate further.
I'm sorry, you were saying?
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:02 PM
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I'm sorry, you were saying?
My original post speaks for itself. If you really think F9's margins are that thin, you have a steel plate in your head. The chart you are referring to spells it out in big pretty letters: "Most Recent 12 Months Reported." REPORTED... So when was the last time Frontier (under Indigo Partners) reported its financials? Oh yeah I remember, it was never! It's a private company now, and they don't let anyone look under the skirt. Google search "Frontier Airlines reported revenue" and the only numbers you will receive are from the DOT.

So I'll stick with my original post, smart guy. Oh and btw, go have whining contest on your own airline's forum, I'm sure ULLI won't follow you over there. Maybe someone over there can respect your safe-space!
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
My original post speaks for itself. If you really think F9's margins are that thin, you have a steel plate in your head. The chart you are referring to spells it out in big pretty letters: "Most Recent 12 Months Reported." REPORTED... So when was the last time Frontier (under Indigo Partners) reported its financials? Oh yeah I remember, it was never! It's a private company now, and they don't let anyone look under the skirt. Google search "Frontier Airlines reported revenue" and the only numbers you will receive are from the DOT.

So I'll stick with my original post, smart guy. Oh and btw, go have whining contest on your own airline's forum, I'm sure ULLI won't follow you over there. Maybe someone over there can respect your safe-space!
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Old 01-11-2017, 02:28 PM
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Why brag over margins when the pilot pay is disgraceful

Same deal at Spirit
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:01 PM
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Old 01-11-2017, 04:03 PM
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Why brag over margins when the pilot pay is disgraceful

Same deal at Spirit
100% accurate, however it does build a case for contract negotiations (profit margins, etc).
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
My original post speaks for itself. If you really think F9's margins are that thin, you have a steel plate in your head. The chart you are referring to spells it out in big pretty letters: "Most Recent 12 Months Reported." REPORTED... So when was the last time Frontier (under Indigo Partners) reported its financials? Oh yeah I remember, it was never! It's a private company now, and they don't let anyone look under the skirt. Google search "Frontier Airlines reported revenue" and the only numbers you will receive are from the DOT.

So I'll stick with my original post, smart guy. Oh and btw, go have whining contest on your own airline's forum, I'm sure ULLI won't follow you over there. Maybe someone over there can respect your safe-space!
So, to summarize, you are smarter than the authors of this research and Frontier is lying to the DOT. Got it.

And I don't need a safe space, thanks. Clearly you're a prick like ULLI. Can't wait for the seniority list integration with pricks like you two.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:11 PM
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Can't wait for the seniority list integration with pricks like you two.
If that ever happens, you (and everyone else) will discover that 98% of us just go to work, and are working for a reasonable contract. People just lose their minds on anonymous forums.

Can everyone cool their jets and focus on the real problem? Hint: It's not the guy seated next to you.
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