If you can't work with a guy for a rotation, no need to hire them. I think they do an excellent job on their screening. Frontier has an excellent pilot group, and they are the reason why. Let them do their job.

 

That's the most fantastic myth about this dump - we have the best crews and that's why we do so well against the odds. Let's be real. We hire guys and gals desperate to get out of the regionals. They need a type and they dupe the "hiring board". Frontier sucks and you know it.

 

Do you keep your finger on the trigger of negativity all the time?
Not even the Big 3 can fix what you got. I hope you get there, but a attitude change would be a tremendous help in accomplishing that.
I was just simply stating they are doing the best they can to screen people.
Geez

 

THAT is a foolish statement.
Is F9 too large to strike ? No
Has Indigo forced self-help in the past ? Yes

The only debt you should have ideally is your Mortgage on the house. The rest should be payed off and at LEAST a month's expenses put away in savings in cash.

 

I think he was implying that Frontier probably won't burn themselves twice with a strike, not that we would be unable to force one via the RLA process.

I also believe it is unlikely, even though it would only be Indigo history repeating itself. I think it is highly likely negotiations will go to the final day(s) of a cooling off period.

 

It's not a foolish statement... they saw what happened at spirit... lets do some math...
We operate 280 daily flights... lets say we sell an average of 180 seats per flight (a mix of 319, 320 and 321)... I read the average frontier fare is $115 but that seems to be on the low end... multiply that all together and they'd be losing $5.5M a day on fares alone... they still have to pay for gates, landing fees, keeping the lights on... and they have more expenses I can't even begin to imagine... a bank doesn't throw away north of $7M a day because they hate their labor that much...

I think we will get released... and I think we'll get a TA at the last minute before a strike happens... I'm not really sure what substantial progress is in the NMB's eyes but 3 days spent on 100% dh pay and not having to call the company after being bought off for OE doesn't seem like "substantial progress" to me

 

Never say never... especially in this industry.

 

The same argument could be made prior to almost any other recent strikes. Be ready, in case you're wrong.

And remember, FULL RETRO! Indigo does not want to pay, and they just might bet a few million to test our resolve.

Incidentally, almost everyone I've flown with in the last six months is totally committed to taking it as far as we need, to get what we are worth.

 

If they choose to wait until the last hour......our ask should substantially increase to .....Delta +30% at a minimum
Full retro!

 

I love how everyone is saying full retro now. I hope the voting members of the MEC is hearing this. I've talked to my rep about it. Pretty much everyone is on board, and I will vote to send it back without it.

Full retro. Nothing less.