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Old 07-08-2017 | 11:11 PM
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Some facts, observations, and estimations for those contemplating applying...

I started in spring of 2015 at around #850 on the list. We now have almost 1150 total, so that's a net growth of about 150/year. I expect we will grow at a similar rate going forward despite what they advertise. The trend is to acquire two new airplanes and send an old one back.

I was told a two year upgrade, but it will be at least 3.5 years from hire date before that option reaches me. (Not complaining, just giving perspective here). For new guys coming on now, I estimate the upgrade taking a solid 5 years as a best case scenario.

I find it much more likely we will hit an economic downturn before you reach that 5 year mark. It's been 6 years since we have seen a market correction of greater than 10%... something to consider. Also understand that a strike sounds pretty immanent if there isn't a contract by September. The soup is starting to boil.

That said, F9 is a much better lifestyle than cargo or a regional- more hard time off, generally more control of when that time off occurs, and usually pretty great people. Our training department is wonderful. Our pay is comparably obscenely low, but that will resolve itself in time if you look long term.

We have had many guys get hired from here to the legacies (two from my class) if that's your aim. And if you just can't get hired elsewhere, or have some failures or a DUI, it's not a bad place to be.

I certainly don't want to deter any good guys out there from applying, and I'm always available for a PM to help anyone out. But I don't think I would really recommend the job to a friend at present. There are just so many better opportunities out there.
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Old 07-11-2017 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
I agree with what you guys are saying, but the IPO filing claims that there will be fleet growth. Indigo can't materially misrepresent this information without facing serious financial consequences. Something they most certainly know.

I know it's frustrating going month after month without any movement. But let's see what happens after the last Sept mediated session, and go from there. If we don't see hiring/ upgrades by then, we'll know how to vote. All or nothing. Enough is enough.
I disagree. They can file their IPO on their projections. Once initiated, they take their money and run. Then they take more money because it was inflated and they sold their shares while it was high. Look what happened to SNAP Snapchat. And now the numerous lawsuits against SNAP for their fraudulent claims and schemes.
The Stock Market is full of scams and schemes and Indigo knows all to well. They are cut from the same cloth.
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Old 07-14-2017 | 07:50 AM
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I'm currently at the Aero Crew Solutions job fair and the chief pilot just announced 20 new hires in August and 20 in September.
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Old 07-14-2017 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CantStayAway
I'm currently at the Aero Crew Solutions job fair and the chief pilot just announced 20 new hires in August and 20 in September.
Did he mention any numbers regarding future aircraft deliveries and upgrade times?
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Old 07-14-2017 | 10:12 AM
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I would take that with a grain of salt.
And that's me being polite. I don't trust a single thing that they say.
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Old 07-15-2017 | 04:04 AM
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Yeah, a friend of mine at Expressjet got the call yesterday for an interview next week.
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Old 07-15-2017 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by azcz10
Yeah, a friend of mine at Expressjet got the call yesterday for an interview next week.
A weeks notice for an interview at a major airline ? Wow that's fast!

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Old 07-15-2017 | 09:10 AM
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Am scheduled for an interview next week as well. Any gouge for who has been involved recently?
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Old 07-15-2017 | 10:22 AM
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They have not changed the interview process. They will ask you why you want to work for Frontier. They will ask you if you have your applications out anywhere else. And they will know you're lying if you say that you don't. So be prepared to answer those questions carefully.
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Old 07-15-2017 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by InigoMontoya
Am scheduled for an interview next week as well. Any gouge for who has been involved recently?
Would this be for an August 7th class date the. ?
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