Frontier Hiring.
08-05-2017, 07:27 AM
#8032
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logbooks@interview
Do they need to see your logbooks during the interview?
The reason I ask is I'm busy updating mine and dont' want to apply if I'm not ready.. but if they don't I'd rather apply and hope for an interview...
The reason I ask is I'm busy updating mine and dont' want to apply if I'm not ready.. but if they don't I'd rather apply and hope for an interview...
08-05-2017, 07:30 AM
#8033
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
Do they need to see your logbooks during the interview?
The reason I ask is I'm busy updating mine and dont' want to apply if I'm not ready.. but if they don't I'd rather apply and hope for an interview...
The reason I ask is I'm busy updating mine and dont' want to apply if I'm not ready.. but if they don't I'd rather apply and hope for an interview...
Have you interviewed somewhere they didn't look at your logbooks?
Yes, they do.
08-05-2017, 09:26 AM
#8035
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Posts: 69
Originally Posted by OpenClimb
I would take this with a grain of salt.
One of the few tools F9 has to offer new applicants is the potential for growth and a quick upgrade. Historically, F9 hasn't hired 300 in a year. They always "leak" promises of big numbers, but I haven't seen it.
We're going to hire 25 per month for the foreseeable future. Followed a few months later with "We can't hire because we need the training guys on the line this summer because we're really busy. Followed within a matter of weeks by a Company Offered Leave of Absence because we're overstaffed.
Consider this to be a preview of life at Frontier. My best guess is that we vacillate between (A) Nobody knows what's going on from one month to the next and/or (B) We know exactly what's going on, but we're going to keep it under wraps until some newspaper leaks the story and we have to fess up.
They get you hooked by dangling whatever carrot is necessary at the moment.
One of the few tools F9 has to offer new applicants is the potential for growth and a quick upgrade. Historically, F9 hasn't hired 300 in a year. They always "leak" promises of big numbers, but I haven't seen it.
We're going to hire 25 per month for the foreseeable future. Followed a few months later with "We can't hire because we need the training guys on the line this summer because we're really busy. Followed within a matter of weeks by a Company Offered Leave of Absence because we're overstaffed.
Consider this to be a preview of life at Frontier. My best guess is that we vacillate between (A) Nobody knows what's going on from one month to the next and/or (B) We know exactly what's going on, but we're going to keep it under wraps until some newspaper leaks the story and we have to fess up.
They get you hooked by dangling whatever carrot is necessary at the moment.
08-05-2017, 09:54 AM
#8036
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: CE-560XL
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by Spoilers
Frontier was always one of the companies I wanted to work for. I spent more time in their jumpseats than any other airline. Great pilot group, good bases and I truly believe(ed) in their service and product, but after the whole RAH acquisition, I wasn't so sure.
I will probably still apply and hope everything will work out for Frontier!
I will probably still apply and hope everything will work out for Frontier!
Flightbag
08-05-2017, 02:08 PM
#8038
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Originally Posted by Lmad
What's the upgrade time if your just hired now?
But assuming no undesirable base with super juniority...
Right now upgrade is at 3 years and reaches down 60% from top of list.
Current # of Pilots is roughly 1150. So if you're hired today you'd be ~#1150
Factor some attrition so lets say minus 200 over next 3 years, hence todays newhire would be #950 when it matters.
You'd need ~1580 pilots on property for #950 to be ~60% down the list to have a shot at upgrade.
So from here we gotta hire ~630 to get to 1580 - factoring the minus 200 attrition
My conclusion:
Hiring ~210 a year would put you at 3 year upgrade
Hiring ~160 a year would put you at 4 year upgrade
Hiring ~130 a year would put you at 5 year upgrade
So you have to roll the dice based on what you think is most likely to happen - Grow, Shrink, or Stay the same.
P.S. ....Last 3.5 years has seen an average gain of ~130 pilots /year.
Last edited by sulkair; 08-05-2017 at 02:44 PM.
08-05-2017, 02:50 PM
#8040
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Posts: 1,459
Originally Posted by Lmad
If they don't how long is the upgrade time and if the open that base what do you estimate?
And just to be fair the 130 pilots / year gain over the last 3.5 years I mention is NET gain, after attrition. So hiring numbers were quite a bit above that.
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