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Old 02-27-2017 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
No airline will pay what Frontier costs. It makes too much money. We won't be sold in the near or long term, in my opinion.



Another possibility too: The IPO, when it eventually occurs, might only be partial, leaving Indigo as majority shareholders, and in charge for a very long time.



If you took to flipping a house and suddenly realized it not only commanded 3x market rent, but also was appreciating, and you were smart, you'd postpone your plans to sell it.



The airline is too valuable - It will only be parted with, whether to the public or another corporation, when the same output (which is minimal) of energy and investment can make more elsewhere.


I completely agree with you. Unfortunately.


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Old 02-27-2017 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaRider
I completely agree with you. Unfortunately.


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I tend to agree as well. I can't imagine they are in a big hurry to get rid of such a cash cow.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
No airline will pay what Frontier costs. It makes too much money. We won't be sold in the near or long term, in my opinion.

Another possibility too: The IPO, when it eventually occurs, might only be partial, leaving Indigo as majority shareholders, and in charge for a very long time.

If you took to flipping a house and suddenly realized it commanded 3x market rent, was appreciating like a rocket ship, and you were smart, you'd postpone your plans to sell it.

The airline is too valuable - It will only be parted with, whether to the public or another corporation, when the same output (which is minimal) of energy and investment can make more elsewhere.
I agree, profiting a half a million a day. I doubt they are in a hurry to share or let go.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Amike
Besides upping the pay rates, what sorts of things do people want to see in the new contract?
1.5-5.5 hour min daily guarantee
2.100% deadhead pay
3. Trips dropped during transition 100% paid...no more having to scramble for trips to get hours up.
4. No more 10 hours of rest during the day then back on reserve that night. At block in you should be off until the next DAY rdp.

The list goes on, these are just off the top of my head.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Amike
Besides upping the pay rates, what sorts of things do people want to see in the new contract?
Retro. A significant amount of retro. We have been underpaid for so long, that if there isn't a lot of money being forked over on day one of the new contract, it's an automatic no vote. The descrepancy will only get larger the longer we go without a contract. The longer this thing drags out, the more they will have to pay me to vote yes.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
Retro. A significant amount of retro. We have been underpaid for so long, that if there isn't a lot of money being forked over on day one of the new contract, it's an automatic no vote. The descrepancy will only get larger the longer we go without a contract. The longer this thing drags out, the more they will have to pay me to vote yes.
THIS!

Delta, Southwest, and Hawaiian (if they ratify) all got significant retro. From what I've heard on the line I don't think our NC has made it a high priority. I hope that changes as negotiations drag on. The company needs to know there are consequences for their bad behavior with concern to the current and future contracts.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AncientAliens
THIS!

Delta, Southwest, and Hawaiian (if they ratify) all got significant retro. From what I've heard on the line I don't think our NC has made it a high priority. I hope that changes as negotiations drag on. The company needs to know there are consequences for their bad behavior with concern to the current and future contracts.
They goddammed better not be asking for, but, instead, demanding FULL FUKKING RETRO PAY.
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Old 02-27-2017 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
They goddammed better not be asking for, but, instead, demanding FULL FUKKING RETRO PAY.


The timing will be interesting. The retro pay clock won't even start for two more days.


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Old 02-27-2017 | 05:10 PM
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I suspect that the little discussion of retro pay is because our contract hasn't become ammendable yet. So, it's been a pointless discussion until now.

On another note, has anyone heard anything on the arbitration on LOA67?
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Old 02-27-2017 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I suspect that the little discussion of retro pay is because our contract hasn't become ammendable yet. So, it's been a pointless discussion until now.

On another note, has anyone heard anything on the arbitration on LOA67?
I believe the arbitration is scheduled for April sometime...at least that is what I heard from one of the red lanyard guys recently.

I agree with you as far as retro...the contract isn't amendable yet so nothing to see there...yet! If this drags on until 2020....I suspect that will change though.
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