Mugatu

Unfortunately this will be the outcome of LOA 67 arbitration.

Missed Appch

Yep. In addition to LOA 67 being way too long, the wording is pathetically weak. So we have that......

Windsor

Look on the bright side. We all get a raise tomorrow.

Mugatu

The only benefit I can see from the arbitrator, and it's a real stretch, is if he asks Indigo to open up the books to substantiate "challenging economic times". That would truly make Indigo go flippin' nuts. Other than that, I don't think we'll get anything from LOA 67.

DrJekyll MrHyde

They'll never open the books. They will simply refuse that request (or any similar request) from the arbitrator. And the arbitrator will award in the union's favor.

WhenPigsFLy

Why do you guys stay there. They are playing you all and every major is hiring.

etflies

Because you can't force any of the big 3 to call. A lot have apps out, and haven't heard a peep.

Bolo

People like you think that you can go wherever you want! Get a clue! You have to be called to interview at a Legacy first!

Aero1900

Because we are likely a year away from an industry standard contract. Sometimes you have to think into the future and not just today. People at Frontier are flying up the seniority list while we work on a contract. We are going to double in size in 5 years

Leslie Chow

Because I'm about halfway up the seniority list, which means I am quite well insulated from furlough. I don't know about you, but I was in this business on 11 Sept 2001. At that point, everyone thought there would never be furloughs in this industry again - much like the prevailing attitude now. Yes, there are many, many more retirements now than then, but don't fool yourself for one single second. It can, and it will, happen again. The only question is when. It might be five years from now, it might be fifteen years from now, but it will happen again. Mark. My. Words. The legacies will lop 3000 off the bottom of a list and not think twice about it. Do I think it will be later, rather than sooner? Sure, I do, but at my age, this is not a gamble I want to take.

Aside from all that, is the fact that every single airline in business today has been a bottom feeder and a shlthole at certain points. Every single one of them. I remember when Southwest sucked. I remember when guys at Delta were taking early outs and resigning seniority numbers to go to Emirates.

It's like buying a stock, you look for one with good fundamentals that is trading below market value and buy it when you think it's as close as it's going to be to rock bottom, then you buy and ride it up. Same principle here.

Frontier may suck hind tit from a pilot's perspective at the moment, but so did the rest of them at some point.

I'll be sure and get back to you on my 65th birthday and let you know how it turned out.