Frontier Hiring.
03-07-2017, 08:06 AM
#7141
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Originally Posted by HacksawDuggan
The only good news is the mediator is scheduling more frequent sessions.
03-07-2017, 08:08 AM
#7142
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Originally Posted by pilotled
Can he still apply ? Will they consider him ? Thank you for any advise gentlemen.
03-07-2017, 08:15 AM
#7143
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde
Yes, he can apply. No, unless they (pilot recruitment) decide at a later date to publish lower minimums.
03-07-2017, 08:34 AM
#7144
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I think it's optimistic to think a contract is coming any time soon. I believe Spirit buys Frontier in 1-2 years. Franke wanted it when he was on the board at Spirit. Biffle has morphed F9's business model into a spitting image of NK's. Fornaro was brought to NK clean up the image and improve performance metrics, but also because he has the M&A experience. Baldanza wanted to grow NK organically, so he was given the boot. Once F9 is IPOed and SAVE stock reaches a predetermined value as to not dilute the share price too badly, Spirit will make a bid using mostly stock and save their cash reserves to fund continued growth. There is very little route structure overlap, but that's starting to change as both airlines grow and begin to infringe on the each other's territory. Common fleet, common reservation system, common business strategy...it's basically plug and play. Change some signs, paint some airplanes, buy some uniforms...voila!
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
03-07-2017, 08:35 AM
#7145
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Position: A320 Captain
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Originally Posted by pilotled
As far I understand if you are bus rated and have experience on the 320 the 500 hours pic is not mandatory. If anybody can help with the recruitment team please PM. Would really appreciate to avoid the regionals and the rjs. Thanks
03-07-2017, 09:48 AM
#7146
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I think it's optimistic to think a contract is coming any time soon. I believe Spirit buys Frontier in 1-2 years. Franke wanted it when he was on the board at Spirit. Biffle has morphed F9's business model into a spitting image of NK's. Fornaro was brought to NK clean up the image and improve performance metrics, but also because he has the M&A experience. Baldanza wanted to grow NK organically, so he was given the boot. Once F9 is IPOed and SAVE stock reaches a predetermined value as to not dilute the share price too badly, Spirit will make a bid using mostly stock and save their cash reserves to fund continued growth. There is very little route structure overlap, but that's starting to change as both airlines grow and begin to infringe on the each other's territory. Common fleet, common reservation system, common business strategy...it's basically plug and play. Change some signs, paint some airplanes, buy some uniforms...voila!
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
As you alluded to, another log in the road is that the buyout of F9 by Spirit other allows for both management groups to stall their talks when they get close to a deal (self help). Just because of sheer complexity they could kick this down the road for who knows how long and blame it on the JCBA the pilots want before the merger progressed.
None of us are going to get anything until the NMB releases us and management may be able to stall beyond that date by announcing the merger. And no - I didn't just give management this idea. These guys aren't playing at the Potter/Tate level.
03-07-2017, 10:57 AM
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Position: A320 FO
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Originally Posted by Windsor
Here is a little piece of crew room rumor I heard the other day......a pilot from a spring 2015 class got hired at Delta last month. Word around the water cooler is Delta said they would pay off his contract at F9. I give it 2 on the truth meter, but who knows.
03-07-2017, 12:04 PM
#7150
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
I think it's optimistic to think a contract is coming any time soon. I believe Spirit buys Frontier in 1-2 years. Franke wanted it when he was on the board at Spirit. Biffle has morphed F9's business model into a spitting image of NK's. Fornaro was brought to NK clean up the image and improve performance metrics, but also because he has the M&A experience. Baldanza wanted to grow NK organically, so he was given the boot. Once F9 is IPOed and SAVE stock reaches a predetermined value as to not dilute the share price too badly, Spirit will make a bid using mostly stock and save their cash reserves to fund continued growth. There is very little route structure overlap, but that's starting to change as both airlines grow and begin to infringe on the each other's territory. Common fleet, common reservation system, common business strategy...it's basically plug and play. Change some signs, paint some airplanes, buy some uniforms...voila!
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
The worst part about this scenario is how it affects contract negotiations for both groups. Right now, both management groups are enjoying a "yuuuuge" comparative advantage in labor savings over the competition. Do you think they want to give that up any time soon? Merge the airlines, and we're back to square one on negotiations plus mired in an SLI for a couple more years.
I for one hope a merger with them doesn't happen. Contract being a big part of that. I'm not convinced that anyone is interested in sharing the pie anyways. Half a million a day in profits, and only 4 percent market share. Sky's the limit on putting money in Indigos pockets if you ask me. Just my .02 cents.
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