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Old 02-26-2017, 04:44 PM
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When did or when does this current contract expire?
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies67 View Post
When did or when does this current contract expire?
The contract doesn't expire, it becomes amendable. The amendable date is 03/01/2017, as in Wednesday. We opened up negotiations with the company at the earliest time allowable (1 year prior to the amendable date).
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:14 AM
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Besides upping the pay rates, what sorts of things do people want to see in the new contract?
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg View Post
Not going to say you're wrong...but that could change drastically if Indigo gets to the point they REALLY want to sell. They might find buyers don't want to inherit labor struggle and not know the real operating expenses post-contract.
No airline will pay what Frontier costs. It makes too much money. We won't be sold in the near or long term, in my opinion.

Another possibility too: The IPO, when it eventually occurs, might only be partial, leaving Indigo as majority shareholders, and in charge for a very long time.

If you took to flipping a house and suddenly realized it commanded 3x market rent, was appreciating like a rocket ship, and you were smart, you'd postpone your plans to sell it.

The airline is too valuable - It will only be parted with, whether to the public or another corporation, when the same output (which is minimal) of energy and investment can make more elsewhere.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair View Post
No airline will pay what Frontier costs. It makes too much money. We won't be sold in the near or long term, in my opinion.



Another possibility too: The IPO, when it eventually occurs, might only be partial, leaving Indigo as majority shareholders, and in charge for a very long time.



If you took to flipping a house and suddenly realized it not only commanded 3x market rent, but also was appreciating, and you were smart, you'd postpone your plans to sell it.



The airline is too valuable - It will only be parted with, whether to the public or another corporation, when the same output (which is minimal) of energy and investment can make more elsewhere.


I completely agree with you. Unfortunately.


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Old 02-27-2017, 08:47 AM
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I completely agree with you. Unfortunately.


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I tend to agree as well. I can't imagine they are in a big hurry to get rid of such a cash cow.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sulkair View Post
No airline will pay what Frontier costs. It makes too much money. We won't be sold in the near or long term, in my opinion.

Another possibility too: The IPO, when it eventually occurs, might only be partial, leaving Indigo as majority shareholders, and in charge for a very long time.

If you took to flipping a house and suddenly realized it commanded 3x market rent, was appreciating like a rocket ship, and you were smart, you'd postpone your plans to sell it.

The airline is too valuable - It will only be parted with, whether to the public or another corporation, when the same output (which is minimal) of energy and investment can make more elsewhere.
I agree, profiting a half a million a day. I doubt they are in a hurry to share or let go.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:03 PM
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Besides upping the pay rates, what sorts of things do people want to see in the new contract?
1.5-5.5 hour min daily guarantee
2.100% deadhead pay
3. Trips dropped during transition 100% paid...no more having to scramble for trips to get hours up.
4. No more 10 hours of rest during the day then back on reserve that night. At block in you should be off until the next DAY rdp.

The list goes on, these are just off the top of my head.
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:23 PM
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Besides upping the pay rates, what sorts of things do people want to see in the new contract?
Retro. A significant amount of retro. We have been underpaid for so long, that if there isn't a lot of money being forked over on day one of the new contract, it's an automatic no vote. The descrepancy will only get larger the longer we go without a contract. The longer this thing drags out, the more they will have to pay me to vote yes.
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Retro. A significant amount of retro. We have been underpaid for so long, that if there isn't a lot of money being forked over on day one of the new contract, it's an automatic no vote. The descrepancy will only get larger the longer we go without a contract. The longer this thing drags out, the more they will have to pay me to vote yes.
THIS!

Delta, Southwest, and Hawaiian (if they ratify) all got significant retro. From what I've heard on the line I don't think our NC has made it a high priority. I hope that changes as negotiations drag on. The company needs to know there are consequences for their bad behavior with concern to the current and future contracts.
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