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02-23-2017 | 12:30 PM

#6981

PulledBreaker

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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan

You sign it, you pay it. Black and white.....

Exactly. You know the deal going in.

02-23-2017 | 01:21 PM

#6982

Xdashdriver

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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker

Neither of which F9 is asking new hires to sign. It's titled an "agreement". Not a contract, and not a bond. I'd recommend that new hires have an attorney spend 30 minutes going over it with you before you show up to class.

While it may be titled an agreement, it contains all the elements required of a contract so the distinction is irrelevant.

02-23-2017 | 01:22 PM

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whooooooocares

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Can anyone shed some current light on resv life. What it's like, how long will you spend on resv. If you bid resv when you can hold a line will you get used often.

I looked back on previous pages but would like some current info. Thanks a lot

02-23-2017 | 01:57 PM

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Yetifan

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Shouldn't having a signing contract be enough info why not to work for this operation? The Frontier guys who are saying this is a good place to be should be ashamed of themselves...

02-23-2017 | 02:45 PM

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TurboFanMan

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Originally Posted by Yetifan

Shouldn't having a signing contract be enough info why not to work for this operation? The Frontier guys who are saying this is a good place to be should be ashamed of themselves...

Another person who is completely fine with paying out of their own pocket 14,000 in less than 2 months on the example above.
Absolutely ridculious.

02-23-2017 | 04:01 PM

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turbojet28

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Originally Posted by whooooooocares

In ORD, reserve is pretty simple. As in, you hardly ever fly. It was busier in Dec and Jan, but so far my experience has been that 30 hours of credit in one month is a busy month. Not uncommon whatsoever to go 2-3 weeks at a time without getting used. Reserve is right at about a year in ORD right now. Overall very low stress. There are a few people who bid short call reserve that could hold lines, I assume under the idea that they will end up being home way more.

Not sure about the other bases - all of my classmates in DEN have held lines for months.

02-23-2017 | 05:31 PM

#6987

Lunch Box

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Originally Posted by TurboFanMan

My hat is off to you for doing the right thing, I totally understand your reasons for just paying it.
I guess what I don't understand is the guys worrying to pay it back? You signed it, and knew what you were singing. I understand if you get a offer from Delta or whoever before the 2 years is up. Move on then, but you won't have any trouble paying it back. I would reconsider the thought of coming to Frontier if you have a problem with the contract. Also, at the end of the day I doubt they would want you here anyways. I understood what I signed, and I will abide by it.

I think people need to put it in perspective. If you owned your own personal business big or small, and put an employee through a month of training that cost you 7000 you would not wanna see him or her leave in 2 months. You would want your money, cause now it's cost you 14,000 dollars to put another through. To mean it's common sense, maybe I'm old and understand values who knows. Or maybe it's because I'm a business owner. You sign it, you pay it. Black and white.....

I here ya, I was really spinning my wheels with the decision, because I had a good size balance left on mine. My number one choice at the time was Frontier, I really wanted to be in CO long term wise and wanted to fly for the animal, but couldn't get the call. Allegiant was in my top four that I applied with, and they called first.

I would think a contract is in the near future for all the animals, but know some might disagree on here.. Pilots are not a dime a dozen any more, and they'll be pressed to obtain, and retain the group at some point, but know that training contract is not helping the process out...

Sad thing was Frontier called while I was in training, and had to turn them down:/, and didn't want to jump around...

Good Luck, hope you all get a killer contact that you all deserve..

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