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Old 02-08-2023, 08:23 AM
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They’re the only place that offers a decent class date. The rest of the airlines have offered me classes 2-3 months later. I don’t think it’s worth waiting that long to go elsewhere? Just go to GoJet to get my 121 experience rolling?
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:37 AM
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During my time at Gojet, I witnessed hundreds of pilots leaving the company due to mistreatment, some within months of joining, and others after many years. A very few, perhaps less than a dozen, filed lawsuits, labor department complaints and lawyered up etc. As with anything else in aviation, they have to pick their battles, and their best path forward is to quietly move on so they can rebuild their lives somewhere else. Filing lawsuits against Gojet would hurt their prospects of a better future with a new employer, just the way it is.

Gojet usually turns over 1/3 to 1/2 of their employees annually. At times over 1/3 the seniority list have been in the training pipeline.

If there's no other airline hiring you, a traumatizing nightmare at Gojet may work out just fine, but almost everyone who tried a career at Gojet before you found out they had to quickly leave Gojet. So don't plan on launching a great career at Gojet. It only works out in the rarest of circumstances, and it's often up to just chance. For example, entire new-hire classes have failed due to being assigned an incompetent out-sourced ground school instructor.
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Old 02-10-2023, 01:19 PM
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I must agree, people should ignore the people with 15 years of G7 experience because they might be tainted by their actual experiences.

Stick with the impression of guys who just started and have not had the chance to have had their opinions tainted by real world experience.

It us all a matter of attitude, you get out of it what you put in.

Woman after her first week in Auschwitz, "They keep us working 12 hours a day, we all live in a dormitory crammed together, food portions are small. We all have the feeling of being together for a common cause, nobody is overweight anymore, and I lost 5 pounds my first week. For the first time in years I've been able to control my weight. Overall it has been a very positive experience. Thank you WeightWatchers-Third-Rich!"
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Old 02-10-2023, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Breaker11 View Post
They’re the only place that offers a decent class date. The rest of the airlines have offered me classes 2-3 months later. I don’t think it’s worth waiting that long to go elsewhere? Just go to GoJet to get my 121 experience rolling?
When you work your tail off in training, go into the checkride super prepared and ready for anything you were trained for, what is going to be going through you mind when they throw something you have never seen before? Are you going to be thinking, "Thank God I got a quicker training date than I could have gotten at a good airline"? Perhaps it will be, "Is this what they talked about on APC, where they throw you a loop so they can fail you to make it harder for you to leave"?

Someday you will be back on here joining in with the rest of us. I'm wishing you all the good luck in the world! (Good luck when it comes to Gojet might mean you break your leg the day before training. Or perhaps your girlfriend informs you that if you go to Gojet she will dump you. Maybe an earth quake will keep you pinned under rubble for a week or two?)
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Old 02-11-2023, 04:32 AM
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So sad. All these hopeful aviators with fresh ATP hours, excited to start at the airlines. Then Gojet distracts them and lures them away from a good career. Use up their patience with the industry, hurt their records and shatter their self confidence in the simulator.

You're on your way to a nice dinner at a nice steakhouse, but a homeless junkie offers you used chewing gum and tobacco. You look at the menu of the steakhouse, look at the chewing cup and the filthy conditions of the homeless guy, and decide "yep, that's the best I can do", give up the dream for the first guy that offers you anything.
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Old 02-11-2023, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind View Post
So sad. All these hopeful aviators with fresh ATP hours, excited to start at the airlines. Then Gojet distracts them and lures them away from a good career. Use up their patience with the industry, hurt their records and shatter their self confidence in the simulator.

You're on your way to a nice dinner at a nice steakhouse, but a homeless junkie offers you used chewing gum and tobacco. You look at the menu of the steakhouse, look at the chewing cup and the filthy conditions of the homeless guy, and decide "yep, that's the best I can do", give up the dream for the first guy that offers you anything.
And how long ago did you experience this? How can you tell that it is still like this now?
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Old 02-11-2023, 07:10 AM
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Because Gojet never changes, it changes you. Look at how bitter I've become and try to avoid the same fate.

Easiest way to avoid sadness is to avoid Gojet. /@G7recruiters don't want you to know this secret key to a good career.

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Old 02-11-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Breaker11 View Post
And how long ago did you experience this? How can you tell that it is still like this now?
Because HK and RL are still in charge. Two names you will learn to love.
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Old 02-11-2023, 01:32 PM
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And how long ago did you experience this? How can you tell that it is still like this now?
lol

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Old 02-14-2023, 10:44 PM
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And how long ago did you experience this? How can you tell that it is still like this now?
You must understand that it is a mathematical equation by an accountant who has a firm belief that the employment laws should not be there or should not apply to him. Why should he have to cover the medical treatments for a flight attendant who gets sick! An immediate checkride and she is no longer an employee. A suit is filed by the X employee who does not have the resources to see the suit through to the end, 12k settlement and it is over. Medical costs savings, 200k minus 12 in costs, minus 5k in attorney fees and profit of $183,000.

Until the costs of violating the laws exceed the savings, the behavior is not going to change. Delta cut its relationship because it was convinced it might come back to them in bad publicity. So TSA keeps the same "marching orders" as one VP of ops put it.
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