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Old 07-16-2010, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata View Post
That's one of the most illogical paragraphs ever written on APC.

Your emotionally based if/then statements clearly show that you're confused. Turmoil and division only benefits management. Perhaps you'll learn that one day as you gain more experience in the industry.
While I admit that my thoughts there were a bit incoherent (i had a little problem from working on my motorcycle in an enclosed space and breathing some nasty vapors), I don't think the paragraph was illogical. The stigma surrounding GoJet benefits those who don't plan on moving on or have a secure job waiting for them eventually. Guys who are on the street with long careers ahead of them don't want the job because it may jeopardize their futures. They are losing out because of the stigma. What is illogical about that?
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:11 PM
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Pilot unity could also include have all pilots be against the GoJet pilot group. We need unity one way or the other. Either everybody needs to accept the non-original GoJetters or everybody needs to agree that they are scum and to be treated as such.
When you sent your resume to GoJet, what did you exactly state on the cover letter? Obviously, it was very convincing for the HR to call you.

When you missed the interview the first time, what did you tell them in order to get another interview. Did you cry? Did you get on your knees?

It is fortunate or unfortunate that you got the "Thanks but No Thanks" letter. Had you gotten the job, right now you would be flying the shiny jet and defending how great of a company GoJet is.

If you thought that GoJet was scum, why even apply and send a cover letter begging.

I was interviewed by SkyWest and didn't get the job, but I have nothing against them.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:29 PM
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "The If You Want To Feel Better About Yourself for Working or Applying To GoJet Jerkoff Thread"?
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies21 View Post
Being willing to fly for less also benefits management, maybe you'll learn THAT as YOU gain experience in the industry.
Ok Captain Old Pro. Your myopia is that you are ignoring the fact that the entire regional industry is based on flying for less. Again, criticizing today's GoJet without criticizing the entire industry is hypocrisy at best.

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I'm still waiting to find out how you will feel if your company starts Fedex-G or UPS-G (or wherever that MD11 is)to do your flying for less.
It won't happen. Do you know why? Because our contract is strong enough to prevent the creation of an alter ego carrier. If TSA pilots are/were happy with a contract that allowed for the creation of an alter ego, that's their business. However, they made their bed......so don't complain about it when it happens. Again, that's not saying I favor the initial seniority list jumpers. But don't complain about today's GJ pilots....again, hypocrisy.


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Is that going to be ok too or just in the regionals because we're all crappy?
That's a straw man question designed to obfuscate. I never said any of this was ok. The hypocrisy is especially not ok.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51 View Post
While I admit that my thoughts there were a bit incoherent (i had a little problem from working on my motorcycle in an enclosed space and breathing some nasty vapors), I don't think the paragraph was illogical. The stigma surrounding GoJet benefits those who don't plan on moving on or have a secure job waiting for them eventually. Guys who are on the street with long careers ahead of them don't want the job because it may jeopardize their futures. They are losing out because of the stigma. What is illogical about that?
I'll tell what's illogical;

Any so-called "stigma" is conjured up by internet forum drama queens. To say that GJ pilots' futures are in jeopardy or that they're somehow "losing out" is playing into the forum dramatics. From trouble jumpseating to the cold shoulder in the hotel van from other regional crews to not getting jobs etc. is all BS. The ones that I know never experience what is claimed on these boards.

There is no stigma in the REAL world.
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Old 07-17-2010, 05:03 AM
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "The If You Want To Feel Better About Yourself for Working or Applying To GoJet Jerkoff Thread"?
No, I should have called it Myopic Hypocrisy at its Finest.
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Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis View Post
Shouldn't this thread be titled "The If You Want To Feel Better About Yourself for Working or Applying To GoJet Jerkoff Thread"?
Ha!

SpiraMirabilis,

How about "Things you've always wanted to say to the GoJet crew in the hotel van"...

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Ha!

SpiraMirabilis,

How about "Things you've always wanted to say to the GoJet crew in the hotel van"...

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It's funny. I don't think I've seen a LAMA who is that forgiving of GoJet. The scars left by Freedom will live a long time.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:25 AM
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How is this thread still open?

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Old 07-18-2010, 11:55 PM
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What truly is hypocrisy is when TSA guys talk about how GoJet is dragging the industry down. TSA has been the bottom feeder of the entire industry since the last 2000 years. When they took their job at TSA, they accepted an industry filth contract- knowing full well that they will never have a leading contract- EVER. If they thought they could change the ways of management they are either delusional, dumb or a liar. Then to turn around and lambast GoJet for being bottom feeders is ridiculous, I mean- REALLY?

The truth is, GoJet was going to be created with or without TSA's consent. It had to, it was the only way around the scope clause with American. The only thing you voted on was a single seniority list.... and you voted it down.

Good luck TSA, you are going to need it; your smear GoJet campaign has failed- get over it. It's really a shame that you didn't devote all that energy somewhere else, but you will never learn. There are literally THOUSANDS of applicants, from all different levels of airline backgrounds and experiences.
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