GoJet-Delta Connection Service (LGA)
#181
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,735
Ofcouse you would say that, since you are the one being turned down. We have an agreement with just about everyone, even small 135 places. In 4+ years our J/S chairman only had a few people ask him why we didn't have an agreement with GJ. I don't think most pilots in our group really cared if we could ride on GJ or not.
#182
Finally, what's with the intimadation talk? I hope no one is threatening anyone. I personally like the forums, because people can say what is on their minds in an industry where rocking the boat is still looked down upon greatly. I hate hearing that 'aviation is small, so watch out, or things will come back to bite you.' We all know the implicit threat of speaking out. I do realize with CRM crews are more open to dissenting for immediate safety reasons, but that's about as far as making waves goes. Why can't the mentality be 'aviation is small and close knit, and we all watch out for each other.'? When folks say Go Jet and pay for jobs have hurt the industry, isn't it because they want what is better for the group? I know I do.
But hey, if it's good for you, who cares, right? I love that mentality.
But hey, if it's good for you, who cares, right? I love that mentality.
I would like to apologize, I have personal rule of not drinking and going on the forums but I broke that rule. The paragraph you are referring to had nothing to do with you and I tried to add an extra line of space to separate it but it should have been a separate post or not even mentioned at all. The dull logic behind it came from posts I have seen in the past about crews threating other crews and I just think that is pathetic. Again my apologies, it had absolutely nothing to do with you.
At least I am consistant.....? There are wins and loses between us and management. What would have happened if Go Jet couldn't staff because for once, pilots showed some unity, and none showed up to fly for Go Jet? Could have been an epic fail for them. Don't deflect by answering a question with a question
And I’m not trying to deflect your question with a question but I don’t really see a question in there. Could you please be more specific and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have?
#183
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
I would like to apologize, I have personal rule of not drinking and going on the forums but I broke that rule. The paragraph you are referring to had nothing to do with you and I tried to add an extra line of space to separate it but it should have been a separate post or not even mentioned at all. The dull logic behind it came from posts I have seen in the past about crews threating other crews and I just think that is pathetic. Again my apologies, it had absolutely nothing to do with you.
I’m not sure what you mean by you being consistent, it seem like you are implying that I am not but I don’t agree with that.
And I’m not trying to deflect your question with a question but I don’t really see a question in there. Could you please be more specific and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have?
I’m not sure what you mean by you being consistent, it seem like you are implying that I am not but I don’t agree with that.
And I’m not trying to deflect your question with a question but I don’t really see a question in there. Could you please be more specific and I’d be happy to answer any questions you have?
You said something about me mentioning that management has won at GJ and TSA. My beef is mostly that pilots let GJ succeed from the start, thus emboldening management for future power plays. I know it is clear I am not happy with the creation of GJ and not happy that pilots decided to work for them. My question was, if literally no one flew for them initially, what would have happened to GJ? Would the TSA pilots had a chance to play ball? I care about that saga for sake of another pilot group, not my own. Pilots support other pilots. In this case I feel that Waterskiers were let down.
#184
#185
Unless you look on this forum there is no bad attitude towards Gojet pilots and even on this forum there is probably 2 guys that post all the BS about GoJet. Real world we are just another regional in mainlines eyes. There is no stigma working here and it is a good place to be. HELL of a lot better than the last regional I was at!!!!
#186
I feel like TSH uses GJ as a test bed to find out how much shady business the pilot group will put up with, and the pilots bent over there say "thank you sir, may I have another?" Then they go around defending and even lying about the state of affairs there.
I chose to be a flight instructor an extra year instead of going to GJ...
I chose to be a flight instructor an extra year instead of going to GJ...
#187
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 500
I have a question for you all. I personally know several Comair guys who are going over to Gojet. I understand why so many TSA guys/ gals are upset at Gojet. That said, we have 5+ year FO's who will soon be on the street at Comair who could be CQFO's or upgrade quickly at Gojet. As I said earlier, I really do feel bad for the plight of the TSA pilots. That said, we at Comair held the line in early 2001, and that didn't exactly work out for us. Not that it will matter to everyone, but the new flying Gojet is getting are CA tail numbers. My question is
how poorly would soon to be furloughed Comair be viewed if they made the switch to Gojet?
how poorly would soon to be furloughed Comair be viewed if they made the switch to Gojet?
#188
Tail numbers don't mean anything. The first G7 Delta aircraft left Comair in 07 and went to ASA and then to Expressjet. The aircraft is owned by Delta. Never heard a word about ASA stealing flying from OH but let G7 get planes from ASA and holy crap hell has frozen over and G7 is stealing flying by under bidding. From what I hear ASA couldn't staff the flying Delta gave them.
#190
Tail numbers don't mean anything. The first G7 Delta aircraft left Comair in 07 and went to ASA and then to Expressjet. The aircraft is owned by Delta. Never heard a word about ASA stealing flying from OH but let G7 get planes from ASA and holy crap hell has frozen over and G7 is stealing flying by under bidding. From what I hear ASA couldn't staff the flying Delta gave them.
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