ERAU trying to STOP the 1500hr requirement!
04-02-2010, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
I just sent a letter to the alumni department at ERAU expressing my disgust at their attempt to derail this bill in the interest of profit.
I would encourage other alumns to do the same.
I would encourage other alumns to do the same.
Originally Posted by DashDriverYV
I'm currently attending ERAU worldwide and have occupied both seats at my 121, and I support this rule with no loopholes. ATP to be an Airline Transport Pilot. End of story.
I am so glad to know that there are still alumni as well as other pilots out there like the both of you! Seeing some of the students that go through these programs recently really makes me concerned about the future of aviation. But knowing that there will be pilots like you and me, Military trained pilots, as well as those that have trained in the civilian world desiring to make aviation safer, willing to smack those cocky young 'uns back into line makes me feel that much better about the future of our industry, thank you all!!!
04-02-2010, 04:37 PM
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If the 1500 hours stand, the regionals will have to raise salaries to attract pilots with those hours, and that will help everyone. Those pilots will leave their cargo jobs flying caravans or whatever, and flight instructors who want a change can try those caravan jobs. The caliber of pilots in the regional level will increase, and that will be safer for everyone, and hopefully they will be paid better at the same time.
04-02-2010, 07:19 PM
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Ha 50K, heck even at DAL it was less than 30K for the first year. 50 bucks an hr but that training pay gets a lot of people.
I agree it needs to go up way up. First year FO on probation needs to be near 40 an hr. for a regional and about 70 an hr for a major.
I agree it needs to go up way up. First year FO on probation needs to be near 40 an hr. for a regional and about 70 an hr for a major.
04-02-2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
50K for a first year RJ F/O? I disagree. I can see that for a year 3 or 4 RJ F/O, but definitely not for a new-hire.
The job costs what it costs. Either the regionals adjust their business model to compensate or go tango uniform.
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04-02-2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
50K for a first year RJ F/O? I disagree. I can see that for a year 3 or 4 RJ F/O, but definitely not for a new-hire.
04-02-2010, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
50K for a first year RJ F/O? I disagree. I can see that for a year 3 or 4 RJ F/O, but definitely not for a new-hire.
$50K/year is not at all out of line for a first year F/O operating a 50 (or more) passenger turbojet. It's not out of line for a corporate pilot operating an eight passenger turbojet as an F/O, and the skill level and competence required should be the same for both positions - there is NO reason (other than short sighted greed) why a regional F/O should not have similar compensation.
I'm sure the management morons are apoplectic at the possible implications of this legislation (particularly those at Gulfstream). Hopefully a few of them will soon be in line to sign up for unemployment, they've certainly earned it.
04-02-2010, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IMHO
I agree, but only 2 or 3 airlines have made a profit in the last 10 years. Where is this extra cash going to come from to raise compensation? I'm looking at this objectively here. Red ink is being spewed across the pages of airline ledgers on the daily basis, just because congress mandates higher hours for pilots, doesnt mean that the airlines are going to follow with higher compensation. Basically we are on the road back to regulation if this is ever going to work. And given the last few months, I dont see why the airline industry shouldnt be govt controlled like everything else.
04-02-2010, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier
Then you have a case of Stockholm syndrome.......................................... .......................there is NO reason (other than short sighted greed) why a regional F/O should not have similar compensation.
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04-02-2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot
And who says we shouldn't get $50k first year? We are paid what we are willing to get paid for. The reason pilot pay is where it's at is because there's no shortage of people willing to do it. If they had to, you can bet the airlines would be paying us all $200k if that's what it took. Of course, flying is fun, cool, and beats working for a living. Then throw in almost a decade of bad years and it's no wonder we're all just happy to be getting what we can.
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