ERAU trying to STOP the 1500hr requirement!
04-02-2010, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by IMHO
I agree, but only 2 or 3 airlines have made a profit in the last 10 years. Where is this extra cash going to come from to raise compensation? I'm looking at this objectively here. Red ink is being spewed across the pages of airline ledgers on the daily basis, just because congress mandates higher hours for pilots, doesnt mean that the airlines are going to follow with higher compensation. Basically we are on the road back to regulation if this is ever going to work. And given the last few months, I dont see why the airline industry shouldnt be govt controlled like everything else.
04-02-2010, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There are some that have gone from 0 to major in less than five years. I would have done it in that time frame except for 9-11 and the RJ boom.
Originally Posted by DaRaiders
Let's say you raise an RJ F/O's starting salary to 50K to attract higher hour applicants. Captains make 80. How much do you think that would cost per ticket? I'm betting far less than a stupid checked bag fee.'m
Not to mention the biggest BS of all and that's current pilots fighting new hire pay increases that don't include them getting raises. When I was hired in 2000 at Coex I got plenty of Captains who didn't think it was fair that I didn't have PFT and the company paid for our hotels, albeit they didn't pay us until we passed either the end of training or the start of ioe. Had that been up for a vote I'm not sure the coex pilots would have allowed pft to be eliminated.
As to what ACL said in his post, he is 100% correct, we should self regulate as pilots, as unions. That's the capitalists solution to this, although it may not sound like it at first.
04-02-2010, 09:46 AM
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I hear you. I got word I'd be upgrading to CLE SRJ Captain (two different erj pay rates) at 1.5 years in the company. Found that out on 9/10/01. By the end of the week it was "what's a flow back?"
04-02-2010, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IMHO
I agree, but only 2 or 3 airlines have made a profit in the last 10 years. Where is this extra cash going to come from to raise compensation? I'm looking at this objectively here. Red ink is being spewed across the pages of airline ledgers on the daily basis, just because congress mandates higher hours for pilots, doesnt mean that the airlines are going to follow with higher compensation. Basically we are on the road back to regulation if this is ever going to work. And given the last few months, I dont see why the airline industry shouldnt be govt controlled like everything else.
04-02-2010, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Here's one question I'd like ERAU to answer:
In the country like the US where we have surplus of experienced pilots, why should the flying public accept lowering the safety margins by taking your graduates at bare mins when they could just as easily hire those with experience?
As a proud ERAU grad, I know I can build the best paper airplanes and I can tell you all about the high speed aluminum tubing. Yet, I can thank Ameriflight for really teaching me how to fly and be a pilot-in-command.
In the country like the US where we have surplus of experienced pilots, why should the flying public accept lowering the safety margins by taking your graduates at bare mins when they could just as easily hire those with experience?
As a proud ERAU grad, I know I can build the best paper airplanes and I can tell you all about the high speed aluminum tubing. Yet, I can thank Ameriflight for really teaching me how to fly and be a pilot-in-command.
YES, YES, YES.............AWESOME POST!!!!!!!!
04-02-2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wanttofly
Weren't you a 300 hour ERAU wonder pilot..? 
UH...NO!!!
I've been instructing here for almost 4 years and now have around 1600 TT, 650 Multi, 600 X-C, and around 120 Instrument (due to the desert weather of Prescott ) I'm proud to say that I am not nor was I ever a 300 hour wonder. I will admit however that I was hired by Republic at 850 total and around 200 multi but while in training my class was stopped due to the Frontier bankruptcy. And I am SO glad that happened. In the 800 hours I have accumulated since then I have learned so much more than I knew when I was hired. I even had the opportunity (not by choice) to declare an emergency due to a lost cylinder. I would have never learned those things had my training not been cancelled. And realizing how much more I learned made me a very strong believer in the 1500/ATP rule. The more you learn the better the pilot!
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