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Old 12-01-2011, 05:24 AM   #11  
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Pushing nature beyond its limits. You got a model to prove that Ill bet.
Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.

If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
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Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.

If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
This seems like the kind of post someone with the tag line of "The G.D. Captain" would use.

Let me see scientist not releasing all data to support their position, emails indicating a conspiracy to hide data, telling others to discredit anyone who disagrees and all to change the way the world lives and shape it to a world that the enlighten ones want to create.
Did I miss anything?
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At this point in time I,d be more concerned about certain countries economies collapsing since it will be much more of a game changer for all involved.
You would think everyone would but it is sad to see that certain extremists do not care that just about every country is having SEVERE economic issues and the last thing they need and the last thing the airline/travel/hotel/restaurant/tourism businesses need is a phony tax scheme added to their business structure.

Cap & Trade is NOT the answer. It is just like the derivatives that were sold from one bank to another. Lipstick on a pig.
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:50 AM   #14  
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Did I miss anything?
You tell me.

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What has happened to “climategate”? What’s happened is this.

First, the UK Parliament’s Science and Technology Committee exonerated the scientist at the centre of the tempest, Professor Phil Jones, finding he has “no case to answer” and that his reputation “remains intact.”

Then Lord Oxburgh (former chairman of Shell-UK) and his panel likewise exonerated the researchers, finding their “work has been carried out with integrity, and that allegations of deliberate misrepresentation” are “not valid.”

Another enquiry, chaired by Sir Muir Russell, found the scientists’ “rigour and honesty” to be beyond doubt.

Two enquiries by his university also cleared Professor Michael Mann – who presented the first of now innumerable “hockey stick” graphs – of all allegations.

Ultimately the (conservative) UK Government concluded “the information contained in the illegally-disclosed emails does not provide any evidence to discredit … anthropogenic climate change.”

Not one, not two, but by now nine vindications.
The Real “Climate-Gate” Climate Denial Crock of the Week

Now how about a cartoon?

Climategate mark 2 -- the quotes and the context - YouTube
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Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.

If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Know whats funny, nature is pushed "beyond its limits" when you dont have private property rights and nature is respected where you do.

Think you regulated socialists would figure that out. But since this has never been about ecology and always been about power, my guess you already know it. Funny how the sociopathic communists have all become sociopathic greenies. Hitler and Stalin pretended to care about other peoples grandchildren when they made their power grabs.

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You would think everyone would but it is sad to see that certain extremists do not care that just about every country is having SEVERE economic issues and the last thing they need and the last thing the airline/travel/hotel/restaurant/tourism businesses need is a phony tax scheme added to their business structure.

Cap & Trade is NOT the answer. It is just like the derivatives that were sold from one bank to another. Lipstick on a pig.
According to the Canadian news it looks like Canada is getting ready to get out of the Kyoto treaty before 2012 .
I agree with the lipstick on a pig analogy.


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It's all smoke and mirrors, a distraction (if you will) from what is really going on. I find it funny that a bunch of darwinians think it's necessary to save the earth. Shows the arrogance that they ACTUALLY believe that human beings have the power to destroy the earth.
We were given dominion, how about taking care of and respecting fellow mankind. Last time I checked, "thou shall not light an incadesent bulb" wasn't one of the ten.
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If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Gosh, you really clinched the argument there, anyone who doesn't buy into the scam is a sociopath.

We cannot escape the irrefutable logic. This also means most of us are sociopaths, I guess we will just have to live with the shame.
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Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.

If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Unregulated capitalism? You can't possibly be serious. A quick check shows that there are roughly 2.75 million federal employees--many of whom toil daily to micromanage the economy and our lives. These same employees are on pace to give us 80,000 pages of 2011 rules by the end of the year. The economy that we have in the United States may be many things, but it is not capitalist and it is not unregulated.

There are a lot of economists who have "plenty models and evidence" that unregulated socialism will destroy our economic habitat. Do you care about the poverty you and your ilk will inflict on your grandchildren and everyone else's. Or are you a sociopath?

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I must say that article from "The Nation" was one of the most disjointed works of demented blather I have ever laid eyes on, the attribution of the failure of the climate change proponents to the existence of cranky old white males was indeed a masterstroke.

Not a lick of science in the whole disaster, just a rant on how to use a manufactured crisis to "put wind in the sails"(a lot of wind, really) of the "progressive" effort to kill capitalism.


Ok, this explains it:The Nation is the oldest continuously published weekly magazine in the United States. The periodical, devoted to politics and culture, is self-described as "the flagship of the left." Founded on July 6, 1865, It is published by The Nation Company, L.P., at 33 Irving Place, New York City.[3]
The Nation has lost money in all but three or four years of operation...

You like the long shots kiddo.

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