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Old 12-02-2011, 08:45 AM   #21  
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Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.

If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
WOW we finally agree on something. How sad that some of these sociopaths(your words) are hell bent on destroying whats left of the global economies of many nations. They do not care that these phony taxes(which do nothing but put money in a new breed of bankers pockets) will absolutely destroy so many businesses and keep so many people unemployed and or financially dependent on governments that can no longer sustain them. What kind of cruel joke are these sociopaths playing on our grandchildren????? Their future sure looks bleak.
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I find it funny that a bunch of darwinians think it's necessary to save the earth. Shows the arrogance that they ACTUALLY believe that human beings have the power to destroy the earth.
Straw dog argument. Destroying the earth has never been the concern. We are, in
fact, destroying man's habitat.

For every one degree C increase in average global temperature rise, we will see a
10% decrease in crop yields. That's huge. At a 3 degree C average global temperature increase, the US will see breadbasket states like Kansas and Nebraska turning into desert states like Arizona and Nevada. That is going to happen in your grandchildren's lifetime.

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A Debate on Geoengineering: Vandana Shiva vs. Gwynne Dyer
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:15 PM   #23  
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Straw dog argument. Destroying the earth has never been the concern. We are, in
fact, destroying man's habitat.

For every one degree C increase in average global temperature rise, we will see a
10% decrease in crop yields. That's huge. At a 3 degree C average global temperature increase, the US will see breadbasket states like Kansas and Nebraska turning into desert states like Arizona and Nevada. That is going to happen in your grandchildren's lifetime.

Part I
Gwynne Dyer on "Climate Wars: The Fight for Survival as the World Overheats"

Part II
A Debate on Geoengineering: Vandana Shiva vs. Gwynne Dyer
Thank you. When you abandon all science, logic and reason we understand you have lost and will always lose.

When the market collapses for trading carbon credits, the truth is told, and money always tells the truth.

Sociopathic behavior never garners any credit in the real world.
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:24 PM   #24  
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Straw dog argument. Destroying the earth has never been the concern. We are, in
fact, destroying man's habitat.

For every one degree C increase in average global temperature rise, we will see a
10% decrease in crop yields. That's huge. At a 3 degree C average global temperature increase, the US will see breadbasket states like Kansas and Nebraska turning into desert states like Arizona and Nevada. That is going to happen in your grandchildren's lifetime.

Part I
Gwynne Dyer on "Climate Wars: The Fight for Survival as the World Overheats"

Part II
A Debate on Geoengineering: Vandana Shiva vs. Gwynne Dyer
So show me your evidence that the Northern Hemishpere has shown any warming since 1998.

BTW here are some crop yield stats for you:

NASS Releases Crop Production Historical Report

Pain in the arse when your predictions flop isnt it.
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Old 12-03-2011, 08:05 AM   #25  
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The earth has been here for billions of years. In that time, temps have risen, temps have fallen. Water levels have risen, water levels have fallen. Deserts are now oceans, oceans are now deserts. Continents have moved thousands of miles. The ice age came and went. ALL BEFORE MAN WAS HERE.

Now you want to tell me that man has managed to throw our habitat off kilter in just 100 years of industrialization?????

And on top of that you want to tell me the way to fix it is to tax it??? The only thing that accomplishes is making billions for people who are already rich, while causing more financial hardships on the working class. What complete utter nonsense!!!!!
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So show me your evidence that the Northern Hemishpere has shown any warming since 1998.
Why should I waste my time with you? You obviously don't believe anything
I put up here. You apparently think NASA, NOAA, the Pentagon, the National Academy of Science, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science are all dirty hippy tree hugging lefty radicals that can't be believed.

It's no secret that 2000 to 2010 was the warmest decade on record.

Skeptics can be persuaded by evidence. You're a climate crank and I can't
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“Global warming stopped in 1998” has become a recent mantra of those who wish to deny the reality of human-caused global warming. The continued rapid increase of the five-year running mean temperature exposes this assertion as nonsense. In reality, global temperature jumped two standard deviations above the trend line in 1998 because the “El Nino of the century” coincided with the calendar year, but there has been no lessening of the underlying warming trend.
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Pain in the arse when your predictions flop isnt it.
It's December now. Is Texas still on fire?
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:27 PM   #27  
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Straw dog argument. Destroying the earth has never been the concern. We are, in
fact, destroying man's habitat.

For every one degree C increase in average global temperature rise, we will see a
10% decrease in crop yields. That's huge. At a 3 degree C average global temperature increase, the US will see breadbasket states like Kansas and Nebraska turning into desert states like Arizona and Nevada. That is going to happen in your grandchildren's lifetime.

Part I
Gwynne Dyer on "Climate Wars: The Fight for Survival as the World Overheats"

Part II
A Debate on Geoengineering: Vandana Shiva vs. Gwynne Dyer
Your fact/hypothesis/whatever is contrary to recent experience. The calculated global temperature increase in the 20th century varies, but was at least 1C. Crop yields did not go down; rather, they increased dramatically.

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Old 12-03-2011, 02:02 PM   #28  
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Why should I waste my time with you? You obviously don't believe anything
I put up here. You apparently think NASA, NOAA, the Pentagon, the National Academy of Science, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science are all dirty hippy tree hugging lefty radicals that can't be believed.

It's no secret that 2000 to 2010 was the warmest decade on record.

Skeptics can be persuaded by evidence. You're a climate crank and I can't
fix that.



http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...tml#post604729



It's December now. Is Texas still on fire?
So I take it you cant show any evidence of global warming since 1998. Didnt think so.

Funny how all those guys you mention get a government paycheck. Think they are for or against big government? You know, follow the money.

How about those record crop yields.
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Of course not.

She's speaking metaphorically about unregulated capitalism destroying man's habitat. There are plenty of models and evidence on that.
And of course the Eastern Block Communists were/are so concerned for the environment!?!

Apparently you haven't looked into some of the travesties good old mother Russia has perpetrated on the planet? Toxic rivers, phisile grade plutonium waste mixed into the soil, that little ole nuclear powered ice breaker that cooked off up on the polar sea ice, unfiltered coal fired plants, Chernobyl, the list goes on and on.
Have you ever flown over mainland China in the winter? Every town has a black coal soot plume that extends for miles downwind. The snow is stained grey for miles. I know, I know they still don't put out as much carbon as we do but they are catching up fast and they have absolutely no concern or care for environmental issues. Just like they couldn't give a crap about feeding melamine to infants or building schools with sub standard concrete and killing school children in the subsequent collapses. yeah captialism is way worse than communism!!


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If you're smart enough to know better but just don't care about your grandchildren
and everyone else's, that fits the definition of a sociopath.
Cute, the sociopath labeling thing is really taking off here on APC. Mr. Skyhigh implanted a seed in the minds of the unstable it seems.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:14 PM   #30  
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The real message here is that the climate change people can fix all of our "problems" if we just give them complete control over our lives.

The human experience of the last couple of centuries has made it clear that the most dangerous thing to our survival is government. Leftnik, rightnik, it doesn't matter-the more power you cede to the state the more likely it is to kill you. But it will be for your own good.
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