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Old 07-27-2016, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
It is obvious that this is an emotional issue for you and that your complete lack of focus demonstrates that global climate change has become a proxy for everything that frustrates you politically. Good luck with that. I'll stick the opinion of the experts and the clear evidence that is overwhelming.

Poor little Fly. There you go with your projections again. You really can't help yourself, can you? So sad.

You go right ahead and believe the opinion of "experts" who have a clear conflict of interest re: telling the truth vs. losing their funding (and their jobs), right along with all their data that has been cooked to skew the results. Just ignore expeditions getting stuck in ice that isn't supposed to be there, the unexplained "warming pause", etc, etc, etc.

Meanwhile, unlike you, most Americans know when someone is ****ing on their boots but telling them it's raining.

Gallup Poll: 75% in U.S. See Widespread Government Corruption






Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post

It's like the passengers who won't put their seat belt on during flight or release it as soon as the wheels touch.


No, it really isn't and that is a very poor analogy.

However, it is VERY convenient to the alarmist's argument that "we won't know for sure if we are right until it's too late to do anything about it".

Meanwhile, dire prediction after dire prediction has failed, giving rise to the convenient argument above (which didn't come about until said predictions began failing). Remember when "global warming" morphed into "climate change"??

Here's a fact you can hang your hat on with absolute certainty:

"Global warming" is nothing more than a piece of socioeconomic ideology wherein "save the planet" = vote for democrats, who are more than willing to use taxpayer $$ to buy all the evidence (and votes) they need.

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Old 07-27-2016, 02:10 PM
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NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman refusing federal subpoena connected to Exxon Mobil investigation

Wednesday, July 27, 2016

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is refusing to comply with a Congressional Science Committee’s subpoena seeking records of his investigation into Exxon Mobil and man-made climate change.

Attorney General Eric Schneiderman refusing federal subpoena connected to Exxon Mobil investigation

Funny how the NY AG, a democrat, seeks to abuse the law to prosecute Exxon Mobile for "misleading the public on climate change" (of which there is no law against doing, even if it were true), but he won't comply with a legal federal subpoena when it doesn't fit his socio-political agenda.

Ho hum.

One set of rules for democrats (and Hillary), and a completely different set of rules for everyone else.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt View Post
Gallup Poll:
Losing focus again, but if irrelevant public opinion polls look at these.





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Funny how the NY AG, a democrat, seeks to abuse the law to prosecute Exxon Mobile for "misleading the public on climate change" (of which there is no law against doing, even if it were true)
A securities lawyer you are not.
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:11 PM
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lol

You sure about that?




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A securities lawyer you are not.
Neither are you. What's your point?

It's not missed that, once again, you refuse to address the main point, in this case (no pun intended) that the NY AG is ignoring established law and refuses to respond to a legal, federal subpoena.
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Old 07-29-2016, 11:29 AM
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:40 PM
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NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat

Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.

The timing of the 1979 NASA satellite instrument launch could not have been better for global warming alarmists. The late 1970s marked the end of a 30-year cooling trend. As a result, the polar ice caps were quite likely more extensive than they had been since at least the 1920s. Nevertheless, this abnormally extensive 1979 polar ice extent would appear to be the “normal” baseline when comparing post-1979 polar ice extent.

Updated NASA satellite data show the polar ice caps remained at approximately their 1979 extent until the middle of the last decade. Beginning in 2005, however, polar ice modestly receded for several years. By 2012, polar sea ice had receded by approximately 10 percent from 1979 measurements. (Total polar ice area – factoring in both sea and land ice – had receded by much less than 10 percent, but alarmists focused on the sea ice loss as “proof” of a global warming crisis.)



A 10-percent decline in polar sea ice is not very remarkable, especially considering the 1979 baseline was abnormally high anyway. Regardless, global warming activists and a compliant news media frequently and vociferously claimed the modest polar ice cap retreat was a sign of impending catastrophe. Al Gore even predicted the Arctic ice cap could completely disappear by 2014.

In late 2012, however, polar ice dramatically rebounded and quickly surpassed the post-1979 average. Ever since, the polar ice caps have been at a greater average extent than the post-1979 mean.

Now, in May 2015, the updated NASA data show polar sea ice is approximately 5 percent above the post-1979 average.

The frequency of polar ice cap stories may have abated, but the tone and content has not changed at all. Here are some of the titles of news items I pulled yesterday from the front two pages of a Google News search for “polar ice caps”:

Climate change is melting more than just the polar ice caps
2020: Antarctic ice shelf could collapse
An Arctic ice cap’s shockingly rapid slide into the sea
New satellite maps show polar ice caps melting at ‘unprecedented rate’

The only Google News items even hinting that the polar ice caps may not have melted so much (indeed not at all) came from overtly conservative websites. The “mainstream” media is alternating between maintaining radio silence on the extended run of above-average polar ice and falsely asserting the polar ice caps are receding at an alarming rate.

To be sure, receding polar ice caps are an expected result of the modest global warming we can expect in the years ahead. In and of themselves, receding polar ice caps have little if any negative impact on human health and welfare, and likely a positive benefit by opening up previously ice-entombed land to human, animal, and plant life. Nevertheless, polar ice cap extent will likely be a measuring stick for how much the planet is or is not warming.

The Earth has warmed modestly since the Little Ice Age ended a little over 100 years ago, and the Earth will likely continue to warm modestly as a result of natural and human factors. As a result, at some point in time, NASA satellite instruments should begin to report a modest retreat of polar ice caps. The modest retreat – like that which happened briefly from 2005 through 2012 – would not be proof or evidence of a global warming crisis. Such a retreat would merely illustrate that global temperatures are continuing their gradual recovery from the Little Ice Age. Such a recovery – despite alarmist claims to the contrary – would not be uniformly or even on balance detrimental to human health and welfare. Instead, an avalanche of scientific evidence indicates recently warming temperatures have significantly improved human health and welfare, just as warming temperatures have always done.

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