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Old 10-22-2018, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
I've been rocking this look.
Is the hat optional?
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:47 AM
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Is the hat optional?
Not at Delta.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:04 AM
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TOTD: anyone who hovers their hand over the flap handle and the gear lever. I'm not impressed that you too know the flap/gear speeds.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
TOTD: anyone who hovers their hand over the flap handle and the gear lever. I'm not impressed that you too know the flap/gear speeds.
How bout the opposite? The captain who completely destroys team unity with his demeanor and borderline condescension. At 2000 AGL (SOP gear dropping point at our shop) you say "Ready for the gear?" only to be rebuffed with a "Not yet. You'll know when I want it". At 1500 AGL another, less direct verbal reminder is ignored. Then as you mentally prepare for the go-around and just before the GPWS warning he realizes his mistake and starts screaming for the gear. Then when you get on the ground he turns it around on you for "inadequate monitoring" and "lack of assertiveness".
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
How bout the opposite? The captain who completely destroys team unity with his demeanor and borderline condescension. At 2000 AGL (SOP gear dropping point at our shop) you say "Ready for the gear?" only to be rebuffed with a "Not yet. You'll know when I want it". At 1500 AGL another, less direct verbal reminder is ignored. Then as you mentally prepare for the go-around and just before the GPWS warning he realizes his mistake and starts screaming for the gear. Then when you get on the ground he turns it around on you for "inadequate monitoring" and "lack of assertiveness".
It's certainly a two way street. I treat everyone like they know what they're doing until they prove otherwise or the situation is almost to the point that it can't be unf---ed. "Hover handers" are treating people the opposite way and showing it in a very distracting way. From either seat.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
TOTD: anyone who hovers their hand over the flap handle and the gear lever. I'm not impressed that you too know the flap/gear speeds.
I'll do that if the other guy seems oblivious to the imminent need for gear, several flaps, and a checklist right about the time approach is going to give me some instructions and a handoff.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I'll do that if the other guy seems oblivious to the imminent need for gear, several flaps, and a checklist right about the time approach is going to give me some instructions and a handoff.
Why don’t you ask? You like the “hint and hope” philosophy?
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I'll do that if the other guy seems oblivious to the imminent need for gear, several flaps, and a checklist right about the time approach is going to give me some instructions and a handoff.
Our SOP is to call approaching FAF. That’s a good jogger to finish the configuration process.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon View Post
It's certainly a two way street. I treat everyone like they know what they're doing until they prove otherwise or the situation is almost to the point that it can't be unf---ed. "Hover handers" are treating people the opposite way and showing it in a very distracting way. From either seat.
Totally agree. Far less distracting to sit silently until just before drastic measures must be taken than to have a guy’s hand someplace in the cockpit out of my line of sight.
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy View Post
How bout the opposite? The captain who completely destroys team unity with his demeanor and borderline condescension. At 2000 AGL (SOP gear dropping point at our shop) you say "Ready for the gear?" only to be rebuffed with a "Not yet. You'll know when I want it". At 1500 AGL another, less direct verbal reminder is ignored. Then as you mentally prepare for the go-around and just before the GPWS warning he realizes his mistake and starts screaming for the gear. Then when you get on the ground he turns it around on you for "inadequate monitoring" and "lack of assertiveness".
Have had that a few times here as well.

Also when the hand comes out, I purposefully (but safely) delay even further. I accidentally bugged a speed below a min speed the other day and the captain very calmly said after going slightly below "hey man how about some more flaps?" "DOH! Yes please" he replied with "almost had that perfect flight I was rootin for ya!" Great guy and handled my mess up the right way IMO.
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