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10-24-2018 | 02:52 PM

#10851

badflaps

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From: retired 767(dl)

I usta swab everything down with alcohol swabs and then put kleenex around my collar and then a small towel on the glare shield. They knew for sure it would be a relaxed trip.

10-24-2018 | 05:26 PM

#10852

4runner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by badflaps

I usta swab everything down with alcohol swabs and then put kleenex around my collar and then a small towel on the glare shield. They knew for sure it would be a relaxed trip.

Then a hand sanitizer treatment seconds after shaking hands.

10-24-2018 | 07:32 PM

#10853

detpilot

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From: Trying not to crash

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Originally Posted by echelon

TOTD: anyone who hovers their hand over the flap handle and the gear lever. I'm not impressed that you too know the flap/gear speeds.

This bugs the crap out of me. I make sure I wait as long as safely possible with their hand there to call for them.

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10-24-2018 | 10:00 PM

#10854

symbian simian

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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard

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Originally Posted by vessbot

"If you fly, you fly" followed by hand hovering is just like the "I'm pretty laid back..."

pretty sure I am not going to convince anyone but:

I put my hand behind the flap lever on the pedestal, so I am ready when he asks for 'm, I don't hover, and never the gear lever, did the same while I was the FO. If I say "I think you need the flaps/gear" it is because we are well within "my controls/ga-around territory". 20 years, roughly half FO, half PIC, really don't think I have a lot of people who wouldn't fly with me.

10-24-2018 | 10:16 PM

#10855

symbian simian

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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard

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Originally Posted by Ducttape

Probably the hand over the flap lever.

Do what you want as the CA, but keep in mind how distracting that is for a newer FO who will likely fixate on “why is his hand there? Should I configure? Does he want me to configure?”

The “your leg, you fly” is great in theory, but placing your hand on the flap lever or gear handle to “avoid searching for the handle”
Is pretty obnoxious.

I don't just say "you fly" in the briefing, I try to make it clear during the flight that as long as we are not breaking the plane/rules, you can do what you want. I would never sit with my hand on the gear lever because (A320) that would be uncomfortable, I can easily keep my hand just behind the flap lever, so I don't or have to get my reading glasses out or set the parking brake by mistake. I really think (hope) that if you flew with me you would realize it wasn't a hint, if I really want you to extend the flaps I would just say "I think you need flaps".
Also on the short bus, 99% of the time guys ask for flaps as soon as they can, both on the way up and down, so not really any chance of it being taken as a hint.

10-24-2018 | 10:18 PM

#10856

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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

If their hand is in the flaps, I call for gear.
If their hand is on the gear, I call for flaps.

It’s a matter of principle.

i always like the way you think

10-25-2018 | 03:56 AM

#10857

tomgoodman

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From: 767A (Ret)

I asked a CA why he kept his hand on the flap lever.
He said: “So I can find it if I need to.”
I asked him if he ever had trouble finding the flap lever.
He said: “No, just my hand.”

10-25-2018 | 04:52 AM

#10858

jpso

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Performing my walk around the aircraft in ATL, no safety vest on because the aircraft doesn't have one and we don't have any extra available according to mx. Non-reving Delta FO boards while I'm outside, walks up front to tell the CA that I'm not wearing my safety vest.

This guy was the crown jewel of tools.