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Packrat 12-31-2018 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2734531)
Should a leg or two sitting in an FA jumpseat be a mandatory part of training? The few times I've done that have been educational...

Perhaps just giving a Shiite what your crew is doing and going through in the back would suffice. I guess that's too much to ask for the kids populating the regionals or are getting hired by the majors at 26.

Maturity is a wonderful thing. Someday they'll have it. :rolleyes:

m3113n1a1 12-31-2018 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2732682)
I'm a Delta gold and travel on Company paid tickets. Even so, I always check in with the Captain (usually before he gets in the jet) just to let him know there's a qualified ABP in the back. I also let the F/As know my seat assignment in case they need any assistance.

I don't know if most pilots are "able-bodied." :D

Big E 757 12-31-2018 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 2734483)
That escalated quickly. I really think your comparisons are a bit of a stretch. I opined that to needlessly waste tax payer dollars while exascerbating our impact on the environment for no operational purpose is a foolish thing to do. Not really sure how that is in any way controversial. I also take umbrage to your insinuation that I would “dime” out my Air Force buddies. Maybe I am totally off base here? Only been at a major for less than a year so I’ll defer to my elders if I’m on the wrong side of this whole debate. Happy New Years!

My neighbor is a Reaper pilot. I was talking to him at a neighborhood Christmas party a few weeks ago and was fascinated by his stories. I talked to him all night. Most of what he does is classified but he could talk in generalities about his missions and his job. He is a former Air Wisconsin Pilot. Anyway, he recommended a couple books about the role of Unmanned aircraft in today’s military and the first book he recommended was “Kill Chain”. I thought it’d be about drone sorties and give me a look into the life of a drone pilots life. Instead, 80% of the book pretty much talked about all the wasteful military spending, funding unfulfilled promises from government contractors like Northrop, Lockheed, and smaller unheard of companies that make Billions of dollars off of the US Military War machine. I have a huge amount of respect for all of you who’ve served in the Military, and wish my timing had been better so I could have served too (graduated college in ‘93), but there is so much wasteful spending on projects that don’t do what they were intended to, I don’t think $12000 worth of fuel is going to move the needle on my tax situation.

pangolin 12-31-2018 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2734430)
Oh no not the environment.

Saving 15 mins is worth it.

I fly short legs. Yet often I fly with guys who fly right at the limit. It saves us at most 2-3 minutes on our routes. And it uses a ton of fuel. The biggest negative to me though is that it limits options on the arrival end for the unexpected. That “extra” fuel can make all the difference in the world. Why waste it to save 3 minutes.

captjns 01-01-2019 05:12 AM

Flying fast may be contrary to one’s wealth accumulation plan... especially if paid by the minute.;)

navigatro 01-01-2019 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2734628)
I don’t think $12000 worth of fuel is going to move the needle on my tax situation.

that kind of mentality is a major part of the problem.

Packrat 01-01-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2734696)
that kind of mentality is a major part of the problem.

Exactly. What did Ben Franklin say? "A penny saved is a penny earned."

Duckdude 01-01-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2734743)
Exactly. What did Ben Franklin say? "A penny saved is a penny earned."

Really more like two pennies earned after accounting for taxes and other deductions from your pay.

DoubtingThomas 01-03-2019 09:37 AM

Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, unless I ask to see it (which I won’t), NEVER try to hand me your phone and show me a picture or video of anything! (boat, kitchen/bathroom refurb, kids hockey game, etc.) There aren’t words enough to express how much I really, really, really don’t care.

DelDah Capt 01-03-2019 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas (Post 2735857)
Please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, unless I ask to see it (which I won’t), NEVER try to hand me your phone and show me a picture or video of anything! (boat, kitchen/bathroom refurb, kids hockey game, etc.) There aren’t words enough to express how much I really, really, really don’t care.

Amen, preach it brother, preach!!!

I've had a guy show me multiple at-bats from his son while he "broke down" the kid's swing....mind you, this was T ball. I've had another guy show me photo after photo of the lumber that he was going to build his deck with....again, not the finished product, just piles of wood.

My new rule is you get to show me me one video and maybe 4 photos per 4 day trip.


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