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Old 08-04-2012 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
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If he only knew...
It's funny how the only guys screaming "I can fly through it if I want and you can't stop me" are the guys who have never actually operated in a MOA. Every military pilot who I know who also fly GA NEVER fly through an active MOA.

I also avoid the ones around UPT bases like the plague... you never know when a solo T-38 stud is going to come blitzing 10 NM out the side of a MOA at 350 knots and 6.5 G's looking for his IP lead just to avoid calling "Two's Blind." Because then I... I mean the "anonymous student" would have had to buy a case of beer for the flight room and suffer untold embarrassment.
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Old 08-04-2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY
TOTD: anyone who fines someone 25 bills for being a TOTD. Like that's really going to keep our babies safer.
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Old 08-05-2012 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
Not to split hairs, but he was trying to fly through a Warning Area, not a MOA. Right at the beginning (0:10), the controller says "...there's stuff going on in the Warning Area..." The pilot is the one who keeps calling it a MOA, which it isn't.
thanks for the correction. I only listened once. You could split that hair with a dull butter knife. Let me pull out the FAR/AIM and call AOPA Monday....... naah he's the tool.

If someone says don't touch that, it's hot (figuratively or literally), don't.

Hmmmmm, now the IFR in VMC routing around the hot MOA makes sense.

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Old 08-05-2012 | 06:24 AM
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3-4-4. Warning Areas

A warning area is airspace of defined dimensions, extending from three nautical miles outward from the coast of the U.S., that contains activity that may be hazardous to nonparticipating aircraft. The purpose of such warning areas is to warn nonparticipating pilots of the potential danger. A warning area may be located over domestic or international waters or both.
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Old 08-05-2012 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Merlyn
Anyone who asks me where baggage claim is. I got you to the airport, now you're on your own.
I had someone ask me where the baggage claim is in MDT. I mean it's not that big of an airport!
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Old 08-05-2012 | 06:38 AM
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The guy arguing with ATC about the WA/MOA is just a typical weekend in FL. Soooo many weekend warriors in FL it isn't even funny. I cringe going into uncontrolled fields sometimes because I've had a number of close calls because of these idiots.
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Old 08-05-2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
The guy arguing with ATC about the WA/MOA is just a typical weekend in FL. Soooo many weekend warriors in FL it isn't even funny. I cringe going into uncontrolled fields sometimes because I've had a number of close calls because of these idiots.
Yes, but he had AOPAs legal department backing him up
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Old 08-05-2012 | 09:22 AM
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I nominate the gate American Eagle Gate Agent working flight 4404 today from JFK to RDU. I know you’ve all read or heard the same story before. I get to the gate 10 minutes before departure. She said, “Sorry flight closed.” I said, but I’ve travelled half way round the world and have a wedding to attend in Raleigh this afternoon. I’m on a full fare ticket… not Zed, nor jump seat… full fare customer. She said. “Sorry flight closed.” I asked if she could at least pick up the phone and do demonstrate some customer service. Again she said, “Sorry flight closed.” Yep… I definitely nominate this Gabronie for Tool of the Day.

Great customer service American Airlines… keep it up.
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Old 08-05-2012 | 09:51 AM
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Sounds like you didnt leave a whole lotta time for a mis-connect.
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Old 08-05-2012 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
I nominate the gate American Eagle Gate Agent working flight 4404 today from JFK to RDU. I know you’ve all read or heard the same story before. I get to the gate 10 minutes before departure. She said, “Sorry flight closed.” I said, but I’ve travelled half way round the world and have a wedding to attend in Raleigh this afternoon. I’m on a full fare ticket… not Zed, nor jump seat… full fare customer. She said. “Sorry flight closed.” I asked if she could at least pick up the phone and do demonstrate some customer service. Again she said, “Sorry flight closed.” Yep… I definitely nominate this Gabronie for Tool of the Day.

Great customer service American Airlines… keep it up.
I nominate you. I think in JFK we have fairly good agents. If your a pilot, you should know the door closes 10 minutes prior. Almost every flight someone comes running up after the flight is closed out, they cant reopen all these flights for all the state reasons. Its not just reopening it in sabre, which isnt easy, but they reopen the cabin door which causes OOOI problems since now the flight returned to gate, and the bag door has to open for the roll aboard. A new close out also has to be done. If you show up 7 min before the flight leaves, and they reopen it, I bet it is now late. I am speaking only as me and not at all addressing the opinion of AMR.
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