Tool of the day
11-05-2012, 06:19 AM
#3081
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 218
Originally Posted by ForeverFO
TOTD: Anybody who verbalizes every single switch actuation they do. With the rare exception of those that require verbalizing, just DO it, don't tell me about it. I'm not blind.
While it is helpful as a brand new Airbus guy to understand what the plane is doing, after the first 2 months, it becomes nauseating.
Am I the TOTD for doing it, or is the group of guys who are 'too cool' to make required call outs the TOTD?
I guess we both are.
11-05-2012, 07:26 AM
#3082
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,914
Verbal confirmation for FMC/MCP operation is SOP. FP aks for, let's say Engine Anti Ice One... MP confirms Anti Ice On... also SOP for my current and previous carrier.
11-05-2012, 07:43 AM
#3083
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,725
Originally Posted by ForeverFO
TOTD: Anybody who verbalizes every single switch actuation they do. With the rare exception of those that require verbalizing, just DO it, don't tell me about it. I'm not blind.
"Window heat is now... <click> ON."
Or they talk their way through an approach.
"I'm going vert speed... LOC is armed (no kidding, I can see you do both), LOC is alive, capture, GS armed. GS alive, capture, here we go..." All on a visual approach where you can see the runway 25 miles away.
I want to start making "Shhh. Shhhhh, it'll be all right" noises.
This has probably already been nominated. If so, I'm the tool for repeating it, but it's driving me nuts.
"Window heat is now... <click> ON."
Or they talk their way through an approach.
"I'm going vert speed... LOC is armed (no kidding, I can see you do both), LOC is alive, capture, GS armed. GS alive, capture, here we go..." All on a visual approach where you can see the runway 25 miles away.
I want to start making "Shhh. Shhhhh, it'll be all right" noises.
This has probably already been nominated. If so, I'm the tool for repeating it, but it's driving me nuts.
While I do agree with your view, vebalizing has now worked it's way into SOP... PITA, yes, but now they want you to verbalize all changes to the Flight mode annunciator, at least where I work.
Now...what about the Tool Capt, who has to touch every single switch while the F/O reads the before start ckecklist? He's not moving the switch mind you, everything is done, but his hand is up on the overhead touching every switch, as the F/O reads the list...oh, and really I love it when he slams his hand down on the throttles (thrust levers) and shouts: "Idle"!
Brilliant! You sure showed them who's boss!
I'm waiting for the day the knobs just snap off!I jumpseat to/from work, so I get to see this once in a while, luckily not too often, but still...give it a rest man! Can you not just use your eyeballs to see that the switches are in the correct possitions?
11-05-2012, 08:51 AM
#3085
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Originally Posted by Timbo
While I do agree with your view, vebalizing has now worked it's way into SOP... PITA, yes, but now they want you to verbalize all changes to the Flight mode annunciator, at least where I work.
Now...what about the Tool Capt, who has to touch every single switch while the F/O reads the before start ckecklist? He's not moving the switch mind you, everything is done, but his hand is up on the overhead touching every switch, as the F/O reads the list...oh, and really I love it when he slams his hand down on the throttles (thrust levers) and shouts: "Idle"!
Brilliant! You sure showed them who's boss! I'm waiting for the day the knobs just snap off!
I jumpseat to/from work, so I get to see this once in a while, luckily not too often, but still...give it a rest man! Can you not just use your eyeballs to see that the switches are in the correct possitions?
Now...what about the Tool Capt, who has to touch every single switch while the F/O reads the before start ckecklist? He's not moving the switch mind you, everything is done, but his hand is up on the overhead touching every switch, as the F/O reads the list...oh, and really I love it when he slams his hand down on the throttles (thrust levers) and shouts: "Idle"!
Brilliant! You sure showed them who's boss!
I'm waiting for the day the knobs just snap off!I jumpseat to/from work, so I get to see this once in a while, luckily not too often, but still...give it a rest man! Can you not just use your eyeballs to see that the switches are in the correct possitions?
If FMA callouts are required, then you've got to do them. Calling all of them is very junior high, but if that's required, well that's what you've got to do.
At DL we used to have to call every mode change on an autoland. I'm sure glad we got away from that!
11-05-2012, 09:25 AM
#3086
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: 737 F.O.
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by Timbo
Now...what about the Tool Capt, who has to touch every single switch while the F/O reads the before start ckecklist? He's not moving the switch mind you, everything is done, but his hand is up on the overhead touching every switch, as the F/O reads the list...oh, and really I love it when he slams his hand down on the throttles (thrust levers) and shouts: "Idle"!
Brilliant! You sure showed them who's boss! I'm waiting for the day the knobs just snap off!
I jumpseat to/from work, so I get to see this once in a while, luckily not too often, but still...give it a rest man! Can you not just use your eyeballs to see that the switches are in the correct possitions?
Brilliant! You sure showed them who's boss!
I'm waiting for the day the knobs just snap off!I jumpseat to/from work, so I get to see this once in a while, luckily not too often, but still...give it a rest man! Can you not just use your eyeballs to see that the switches are in the correct possitions?
11-05-2012, 09:58 AM
#3087
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,725
I once flew with a Captain Germophobe!
We had a long layover in CVG, downtown, got in about 5pm on a Sunday. There's a sports pub a block from our hotel, I say, "Hey, want to go get some grub and watch a football game?"
He says, "Nah...I've got some stuff to do so I'll be in my room..." Now, this was way before laptops and cellphones, so I'm wondering what's he got to do? But I went and ate, watched a game, got a good night's sleep.
The next morning we're in the cockpit preflighting, he reaches into his bag and pulls out a bottle of Lysol or Mr. Clean or somehing...and a rag! Then he procedes to wipe down the yoke, the thrust levers, and every knob, switch, lever and handle. Everything he might touch in the cockpit got a good scrubbing, to include the overhead switches, oh, and of course his oxygen mask. And if you've dealt with the 757 O2 mask, you know what a PITA it is to stow when done, but that didn't slow him down.
I'm getting the ATIS, watching the show, but I don't mention I think he's nutz. Later in cruise I asked, "So, did you see any of that game last night?"
He said, "No, I went next door to Wallgreens and bought the disinfectant, then I cleaned my bathtub..."
No joke.
We had a long layover in CVG, downtown, got in about 5pm on a Sunday. There's a sports pub a block from our hotel, I say, "Hey, want to go get some grub and watch a football game?"
He says, "Nah...I've got some stuff to do so I'll be in my room..." Now, this was way before laptops and cellphones, so I'm wondering what's he got to do? But I went and ate, watched a game, got a good night's sleep.
The next morning we're in the cockpit preflighting, he reaches into his bag and pulls out a bottle of Lysol or Mr. Clean or somehing...and a rag! Then he procedes to wipe down the yoke, the thrust levers, and every knob, switch, lever and handle. Everything he might touch in the cockpit got a good scrubbing, to include the overhead switches, oh, and of course his oxygen mask. And if you've dealt with the 757 O2 mask, you know what a PITA it is to stow when done, but that didn't slow him down.
I'm getting the ATIS, watching the show, but I don't mention I think he's nutz. Later in cruise I asked, "So, did you see any of that game last night?"
He said, "No, I went next door to Wallgreens and bought the disinfectant, then I cleaned my bathtub..."
No joke.
11-05-2012, 10:41 AM
#3088
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Seat 0B
Posts: 2,300
Originally Posted by Timbo
I once flew with a Captain Germophobe!
We had a long layover in CVG, downtown, got in about 5pm on a Sunday. There's a sports pub a block from our hotel, I say, "Hey, want to go get some grub and watch a football game?"
He says, "Nah...I've got some stuff to do so I'll be in my room..." Now, this was way before laptops and cellphones, so I'm wondering what's he got to do? But I went and ate, watched a game, got a good night's sleep.
The next morning we're in the cockpit preflighting, he reaches into his bag and pulls out a bottle of Lysol or Mr. Clean or somehing...and a rag! Then he procedes to wipe down the yoke, the thrust levers, and every knob, switch, lever and handle. Everything he might touch in the cockpit got a good scrubbing, to include the overhead switches, oh, and of course his oxygen mask. And if you've dealt with the 757 O2 mask, you know what a PITA it is to stow when done, but that didn't slow him down.
I'm getting the ATIS, watching the show, but I don't mention I think he's nutz. Later in cruise I asked, "So, did you see any of that game last night?"
He said, "No, I went next door to Wallgreens and bought the disinfectant, then I cleaned my bathtub..."
No joke.
We had a long layover in CVG, downtown, got in about 5pm on a Sunday. There's a sports pub a block from our hotel, I say, "Hey, want to go get some grub and watch a football game?"
He says, "Nah...I've got some stuff to do so I'll be in my room..." Now, this was way before laptops and cellphones, so I'm wondering what's he got to do? But I went and ate, watched a game, got a good night's sleep.
The next morning we're in the cockpit preflighting, he reaches into his bag and pulls out a bottle of Lysol or Mr. Clean or somehing...and a rag! Then he procedes to wipe down the yoke, the thrust levers, and every knob, switch, lever and handle. Everything he might touch in the cockpit got a good scrubbing, to include the overhead switches, oh, and of course his oxygen mask. And if you've dealt with the 757 O2 mask, you know what a PITA it is to stow when done, but that didn't slow him down.
I'm getting the ATIS, watching the show, but I don't mention I think he's nutz. Later in cruise I asked, "So, did you see any of that game last night?"
He said, "No, I went next door to Wallgreens and bought the disinfectant, then I cleaned my bathtub..."
No joke.
11-05-2012, 11:28 AM
#3090
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B777
Posts: 586
Saw a hot chick pilot hanging out in the Customs exit at IAH....she was in FULL UNIFORM and I noticed the B787 and B737 stickers all over her flight bag....then noticed she was with ASA.
She was going to Starbucks so I guess there are no others but only in the Intl arrival area?
Not really a tool....just had to laugh at a young chick that had all big boeing stickers all over her bag!
She was going to Starbucks so I guess there are no others but only in the Intl arrival area?
Not really a tool....just had to laugh at a young chick that had all big boeing stickers all over her bag!
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