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#4801
I've always felt that you should get 1 missile launch per day.
#4803
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#4804
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"Road rage" as we use it in the zeitgeist/lexicon may or may not end up being what happened (if it was, the press got lucky because they are flat out guessing at best and outright planting stories at worst) but we do know that the authorities are looking into another case for the same suspect where a police officer was ambushed in what appeared to be an extremely premeditated thrill kill in another state over a month ago and that had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with "road rage".
Gotta love the lamestream media.
#4805
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Yes, right, because when peopel carry every fender bender/arguement becomes a "wild west style shootout".
Except it doesn't. Care to delve into the actual data of concealed carry/castle doctrine states? There are many decades of data available, and much of it from very official government sources. Hint: you will lose your argument, big time.
Except it doesn't. Care to delve into the actual data of concealed carry/castle doctrine states? There are many decades of data available, and much of it from very official government sources. Hint: you will lose your argument, big time.
#4806
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I agree with you about the statistics and the doctrine. However, not referencing this incident specifically there are countless stories of people flying off the handle and over reacting in certain situations. When a police officer shoots someone without just cause I have a serious problem with that. Not knowing the entire story it can be difficult to make that assertion. I am just saying if it is the case that someone shoots someone else and takes a human life for ANY reason other than protecting their own do they reserve the right to carry a firearm?
#4808
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I agree with you about the statistics and the doctrine. However, not referencing this incident specifically there are countless stories of people flying off the handle and over reacting in certain situations. When a police officer shoots someone without just cause I have a serious problem with that. Not knowing the entire story it can be difficult to make that assertion. I am just saying if it is the case that someone shoots someone else and takes a human life for ANY reason other than protecting their own do they reserve the right to carry a firearm?
As to the so called "road rage shooter" and the so called "texting in a movie theatre shooter" long before we delve into the constitutional rights issue we at least need to know what actually happened and in both cases we simply don't. The media is pimping us with tasty virtual hashtags that conjure up preconcieved notions and anti gun stereotypes (many of which they harbor deeply themselves) to both promote an agenda and, as always, to sell copy. And the second part of that is working well. For every "hey did you hear about that road rage killing guy" that passes around the gossip machine when we basically have no idea whatsoever what happened yet, modern journalism sinks another inch into the quicksand of irrelevancy.
I don't think you would find very many, let alone any, gun rights supporters who will say that someone has the right to carry a firearm who has committed a deliberate act of extreme and deadly violence against someone when it was not justified. Likewise the entire nation is not going to surrender a right because of the actions of a few, even if they played out as advertised by an extremely biased and activist branch of the media, and quite often they don't anyway.
#4809
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I nominate the international business class passenger on the way to Shanghai today that could't figure out how to open the lav door. However, he was able to whip it out and use the corner outside of the lav as a urinal instead.
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