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Old 01-06-2014 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
I know the Captain is ultimately responsible, but how do you know that the FO wasn't the last out?
You answered your own question....the CA is responsible.
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Old 01-06-2014 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
You answered your own question….the CA is responsible.

I'm not trying to remove anyone from blame, but are you sure it wasn't station personnel?

Maybe it's changed, but the same thing happened to me years ago, and I was surprised to find that it was the station guys (I think it was in SYR)-- who had permission to power up the aircraft -- who left the battery switch on and delayed us that morning. The station manager showed me the checklist they had and everything. Too, bad they missed the last step.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm not trying to remove anyone from blame, but are you sure it wasn't station personnel?

Maybe it's changed, but the same thing happened to me years ago, and I was surprised to find that it was the station guys (I think it was in SYR)-- who had permission to power up the aircraft -- who left the battery switch on and delayed us that morning. The station manager showed me the checklist they had and everything. Too, bad they missed the last step.
Truth. I was in ERI with an Air Wis crew when I was at 9E. We were pulling away from the airport and I looked back at our plane and noticed the emergency lights on. I thought that somehow I had screwed up the power down checklist and immediately asked for a return which of course resulted in the ultimate scorn from the other crew.

It turned out the local rampers had figured out they could light up the cabin with the emergency lights. They got a talking to....
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Old 01-07-2014 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
Because that punishment isn't a gross overstepping of government boundaries......
People who comment without reading the linked story.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:06 AM
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During descent, the guy smacked a 19 month old child then used a racial slur, on an airplane. He gets 8 months in jail & deserves it as we'll as a place in history on the TOTD thread.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
During descent, the guy smacked a 19 month old child then used a racial slur, on an airplane. He gets 8 months in jail & deserves it as we'll as a place in history on the TOTD thread.
Seriously give the guy a break, I mean who amongst us hasn't occasionally had to rough up an 8 month old.



(Pssssss.......The above is post is meant to be sarcastic for those of us who may be sarcasm-impaired.)
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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
I'm not trying to remove anyone from blame, but are you sure it wasn't station personnel?
Yeah....we asked that question. Nobody touched the plane all night. It was an Int'l flight that had been secured after arrival. When the ground crew got to it the next morning, the battery was dead.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Truth. I was in ERI with an Air Wis crew when I was at 9E. We were pulling away from the airport and I looked back at our plane and noticed the emergency lights on. I thought that somehow I had screwed up the power down checklist and immediately asked for a return which of course resulted in the ultimate scorn from the other crew.

It turned out the local rampers had figured out they could light up the cabin with the emergency lights. They got a talking to....


Yep. This ^^^^^^^^^^.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Pssssss.......The above is post is meant to be sarcastic for those of us who may be sarcasm-impaired.)
Sarcasm meter is fully functional.
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Old 01-07-2014 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
Yeah....we asked that question. Nobody touched the plane all night. It was an Int'l flight that had been secured after arrival. When the ground crew got to it the next morning, the battery was dead.
Sounds more like a mistake than toolish behavior. A tool typically involves some selfish motive or narcissism.
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