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Old 05-24-2015, 02:40 PM   #6341  
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I was standing in the door saying Buh-bye to the folks and a guy walks by and says: "Nice third wire, Skip"....
Reminds me of another tool of the day.

The passenger that has waited the whole flight to pop in and say something negative. Usually in reference to a recent aviation tragedy or embarassment. Luckily it's offset with several nice replies. Just a big tool thing to do.

In a positive light it makes me glad I don't work in a cubicle next to people like that.
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:16 PM   #6342  
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I was standing in the door saying Buh-bye to the folks and a guy walks by and says: "Nice third wire, Skip"....
Did you counter, "No... I snagged the second wire."?
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:47 PM   #6343  
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Yes, PLEASE show my post to the SpecOps guys you know--and pass along the thanks for their service that my pax wanted them to have!

After they embarressedly say "You're welcome" or "It is my privilege to serve" (my two normal responses), then please let them know you are too embarrassed to even mention to your pax that you served ...

I never said I needed public thanks ... You must have failed English comprehension at VMI.
You're wrong on this one...there's no need to discuss military history, flying history, or really much of anything else about the pilots' backgrounds.

Some folks might think it's neat, but some will be annoyed or worse. You need to tailor your customer service to the lowest common denominator. Some of the paying passengers are probably opposed to all things military and don't feel they need to be given an opportunity to thank anyone. You're in the service industry now, not the place to be forward leaning with your personal views.

If you want to entertain military and aviation buffs, invite them to the bar afterwards.

And on behalf of the specops community... save the public accolades for the 20 y/o conventional forces groundpounder who has the real crap job and limited resources and support, or the wounded warrior. Hollywood will more than take care of the top guns and sof operators.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:18 PM   #6344  
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It cracks me up when I'm standing up at the entrance to the cockpit after a flight and a pax comes happily ambling down the isle "SO YOU MUST HAVE BEEN (insert navy or air force typically)!"

"No sir, I'm an all civilian background, thanks for flying with us today."

"oh..." (dejected look from passenger)
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:37 PM   #6345  
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It cracks me up when I'm standing up at the entrance to the cockpit after a flight and a pax comes happily ambling down the isle "SO YOU MUST HAVE BEEN (insert navy or air force typically)!"

"No sir, I'm an all civilian background, thanks for flying with us today."

"oh..." (dejected look from passenger)
Just tell 'em you were Coast Guard...that will really confuse 'em.
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Old 05-24-2015, 04:53 PM   #6346  
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Just tell 'em you were Coast Guard...that will really confuse 'em.
Then they will say; "Coaast Guaard? So..... you weren't in the military... Rigging for incoming.
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Old 05-25-2015, 09:31 AM   #6347  
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You're wrong on this one...there's no need to discuss military history, flying history, or really much of anything else about the pilots' backgrounds.

Some folks might think it's neat, but some will be annoyed or worse. You need to tailor your customer service to the lowest common denominator. Some of the paying passengers are probably opposed to all things military and don't feel they need to be given an opportunity to thank anyone. You're in the service industry now, not the place to be forward leaning with your personal views.

If you want to entertain military and aviation buffs, invite them to the bar afterwards.

And on behalf of the specops community... save the public accolades for the 20 y/o conventional forces groundpounder who has the real crap job and limited resources and support, or the wounded warrior. Hollywood will more than take care of the top guns and sof operators.
That is your opinion. Based on my pax's overwhelmingly supportive comments, I would say you are wrong.

And merely stating in a PA that someone is a retired Navy or USAF fighter pilot, or Army pilot (or EVEN Coast Guard) is not overboard, arrogant, or toolish.

I flew with another great guy who did not mention his USAF fighter pilot background but merely wears a USAFA lanyard (for Justdoingmyjob, that is a military academy ). He said he received more comments about that lanyard (all positive) than he could have imagined, from people saying thanks for serving or others who have children at USAFA.

Yup, I am in a service industry now, but I was before, too! It must be sad to fly with a company, pilots, and pax who don't want to show a humble pride in their past service to the country. At least at my company, they are VERY patriotic, and so are our pax!

Instead of continuing to bicker about this, let's just remember those who have given their lives in service to the country today. Not doing that is toolish beyond measure!
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You're wrong on this one...there's no need to discuss military history, flying history, or really much of anything else about the pilots' backgrounds.

Some folks might think it's neat, but some will be annoyed or worse. You need to tailor your customer service to the lowest common denominator. Some of the paying passengers are probably opposed to all things military and don't feel they need to be given an opportunity to thank anyone. You're in the service industry now, not the place to be forward leaning with your personal views.

If you want to entertain military and aviation buffs, invite them to the bar afterwards.

And on behalf of the specops community... save the public accolades for the 20 y/o conventional forces groundpounder who has the real crap job and limited resources and support, or the wounded warrior. Hollywood will more than take care of the top guns and sof operators.
I like to call these people....liberal socialist a-holes. Who cares what they think?
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Cirrus's official FAA-approved spin recovery procedure is to deploy the ballistic chute. Sorry, but that's just shady.
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I'd agree. Especially in the sense that it's probably not the first plane you should learn on.
Yes. Somehow they convinced FAA that deployment of chute is a "spin recovery process."

According to the SR-22 Pilot's Operating Handbook:

"The SR22 is not approved for spins, and has not been tested or certified for spin recovery characteristics. The only approved and demonstrated method of spin recovery is activation of the Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (See CAPS Deployment, this section). Because of this, if the aircraft 'departs controlled flight,' the CAPS must be deployed.
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Do not waste time and altitude trying to recover from a spiral/ spin before activating CAPS."

Not exactly a pilot's plane. It is viewed as a form of luxury transport for the well-heeled, as was the Bonanza in the 1960's. Fatal accident rate significantly higher than average. I'm not saying it can't be safely flown in the right fashion, but it should be flown in such a fashion - minimizing maneuvering and risk, and I wouldn't want to fly one slowly.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:25 PM   #6350  
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I like to call these people....liberal socialist a-holes. Who cares what they think?
Good boy. You are a chickenhawk senator's dream.

My original CFI was ex-mil and (thankfully) he was nothing like the "I wanna trophy I'm special listen to my stories" views expressed above. The smartest officers I've met were humble reasonable people and didn't wear their service on their sleeve.
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