Tool of the day
01-04-2016 | 07:45 AM
#7341
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Texraid.
Your going to have to come up with better material than petty theft
We can come up with far better stuff that our scummy brethren have done.
Murder, hundreds of millions in fraud thefts, running around naked in trench coats, pedophiles, ect ect
Welcome to the party
Your going to have to come up with better material than petty theft
We can come up with far better stuff that our scummy brethren have done.
Murder, hundreds of millions in fraud thefts, running around naked in trench coats, pedophiles, ect ect
Welcome to the party
01-04-2016 | 08:00 AM
#7342
Layover Master
Joined: Jan 2013
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From: Seated
New Years day, late morning out of South Florida.
Unsatisfied with the limited geographic of his cabin PA, our hero decided that Guard would spread his message far and wide on his flight from FL to NY.
I've done a fine one as well in the past, (and deserved the "helpful" suggestions on comm use )
Where it approached a low level "Toolish" level was the added,... "I am Captain "Marlboro", and along with the First Officer, you are in the capable hands of two pilots with a combined 26 years of experience as US Navy pilots"
Of course he didn't mention his FO's name during his PA.
Even bigger "Tools" were the endless idiots jumping in with "GUAAARRRRD" in the middle of the PA when there is zero chance of him hearing it and no doubt blocking more self flagellating parts of an entertaining guard PA.
Unsatisfied with the limited geographic of his cabin PA, our hero decided that Guard would spread his message far and wide on his flight from FL to NY.
I've done a fine one as well in the past, (and deserved the "helpful" suggestions on comm use
) Where it approached a low level "Toolish" level was the added,... "I am Captain "Marlboro", and along with the First Officer, you are in the capable hands of two pilots with a combined 26 years of experience as US Navy pilots"
Of course he didn't mention his FO's name during his PA.
Even bigger "Tools" were the endless idiots jumping in with "GUAAARRRRD" in the middle of the PA when there is zero chance of him hearing it and no doubt blocking more self flagellating parts of an entertaining guard PA.
No lie, I once heard a captain on guard give his PA and add in, "And both of us are graduates of the United States Air Force Academy, so you know you're in good hands." HAHAHAHA.
01-04-2016 | 08:05 AM
#7343
New Hire
Joined: Jan 2016
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Those bags are at least 8"x12" and with all the "contents" I hardly think he could have stuffed it in his pocket.
Wrong in this case:
How do you know he worked for a large regional? It happened in concourse A, no mainlines, unless you consider F9 and G4 mainline.
I'm just curious as we never heard anything like this in the news or scuttlebutt around campus.
Wrong in this case:
How do you know he worked for a large regional? It happened in concourse A, no mainlines, unless you consider F9 and G4 mainline.
I'm just curious as we never heard anything like this in the news or scuttlebutt around campus.
01-04-2016 | 09:11 AM
#7345
New Hire
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 7
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Texraid.
Your going to have to come up with better material than petty theft
We can come up with far better stuff that our scummy brethren have done.
Murder, hundreds of millions in fraud thefts, running around naked in trench coats, pedophiles, ect ect
Welcome to the party
Your going to have to come up with better material than petty theft
We can come up with far better stuff that our scummy brethren have done.
Murder, hundreds of millions in fraud thefts, running around naked in trench coats, pedophiles, ect ect
Welcome to the party
Thx, you're the first to offer a welcome
01-04-2016 | 10:46 AM
#7346
Otto
Joined: Jul 2013
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
To the DAL gate agent working the 1755 JFK to ATL this past Saturday. After waiting 10 minutes for Air France to clear the alley and another endless 5 minutes waiting for crews to hook up external power (no APU) I run to the gate 6 minutes after push and find the door still open and the gate agent still up top at the computer. Relieved, I asked if there was any room on the flight. The gate agent responded every seat was taken. I asked about the cockpit jump seat: taken, the FA jumpseat? Oh that's open.
"Great, list me for the FA jump seat".
"sorry, if I take the time to do that, I'll take a delay"
"uhh, it's 7 past push and the door is still open. You're already late, what's another 60 seconds?"
"sorry, I can't do that"
"so you're going to make me spend a night in NYC away from my family so you can save a minute on a flight that is late anyway"
"sorry, I can't list you"
At which point he closes out the flight, goes down the ramp, and closes the door. He then had the gall to come back up and tell me how sorry he was, but now the door is closed and it's out of his hands. YGBSM.
In the end it worked out, because as I was contemplating getting a cab to grab the 9pm out of LGA, I got a call from a desperate scheduler trying to fill a last minute NYC trip that had been converted to an ATL GS. "Well, it just so happens I'm already in NYC, if you can buy my hotel room for the night..."
End result was good, but doesn't change the toolery of the gate agent.
"Great, list me for the FA jump seat".
"sorry, if I take the time to do that, I'll take a delay"
"uhh, it's 7 past push and the door is still open. You're already late, what's another 60 seconds?"
"sorry, I can't do that"
"so you're going to make me spend a night in NYC away from my family so you can save a minute on a flight that is late anyway"
"sorry, I can't list you"
At which point he closes out the flight, goes down the ramp, and closes the door. He then had the gall to come back up and tell me how sorry he was, but now the door is closed and it's out of his hands. YGBSM.
In the end it worked out, because as I was contemplating getting a cab to grab the 9pm out of LGA, I got a call from a desperate scheduler trying to fill a last minute NYC trip that had been converted to an ATL GS. "Well, it just so happens I'm already in NYC, if you can buy my hotel room for the night..."
End result was good, but doesn't change the toolery of the gate agent.
01-04-2016 | 11:03 AM
#7347
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
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To the DAL gate agent working the 1755 JFK to ATL this past Saturday. After waiting 10 minutes for Air France to clear the alley and another endless 5 minutes waiting for crews to hook up external power (no APU) I run to the gate 6 minutes after push and find the door still open and the gate agent still up top at the computer. Relieved, I asked if there was any room on the flight. The gate agent responded every seat was taken. I asked about the cockpit jump seat: taken, the FA jumpseat? Oh that's open.
"Great, list me for the FA jump seat".
"sorry, if I take the time to do that, I'll take a delay"
"uhh, it's 7 past push and the door is still open. You're already late, what's another 60 seconds?"
"sorry, I can't do that"
"so you're going to make me spend a night in NYC away from my family so you can save a minute on a flight that is late anyway"
"sorry, I can't list you"
At which point he closes out the flight, goes down the ramp, and closes the door. He then had the gall to come back up and tell me how sorry he was, but now the door is closed and it's out of his hands. YGBSM.
In the end it worked out, because as I was contemplating getting a cab to grab the 9pm out of LGA, I got a call from a desperate scheduler trying to fill a last minute NYC trip that had been converted to an ATL GS. "Well, it just so happens I'm already in NYC, if you can buy my hotel room for the night..." End result was good, but doesn't change the toolery of the gate agent.
"Great, list me for the FA jump seat".
"sorry, if I take the time to do that, I'll take a delay"
"uhh, it's 7 past push and the door is still open. You're already late, what's another 60 seconds?"
"sorry, I can't do that"
"so you're going to make me spend a night in NYC away from my family so you can save a minute on a flight that is late anyway"
"sorry, I can't list you"
At which point he closes out the flight, goes down the ramp, and closes the door. He then had the gall to come back up and tell me how sorry he was, but now the door is closed and it's out of his hands. YGBSM.
In the end it worked out, because as I was contemplating getting a cab to grab the 9pm out of LGA, I got a call from a desperate scheduler trying to fill a last minute NYC trip that had been converted to an ATL GS. "Well, it just so happens I'm already in NYC, if you can buy my hotel room for the night..."
End result was good, but doesn't change the toolery of the gate agent.
01-04-2016 | 11:57 AM
#7348
Otto
Joined: Jul 2013
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From: Turkish Pile Driver
Yeah but at least you came after scheduled departure time. I ran over for a 450pm departure and got there at 435pm and was told sorry, we closed at 430pm. A full 20 mints early. Jetbridge hooked up and everything and no one waiting for a gate, no weather, no edct. And it's one thing if they close 20 early and plane pushes 15 early. No, this 717 didn't even push until 7 prior. How much you wanna bet the gate agent could have easily listed and gotten me on in less than 8 minutes, and still have this plane push 7 early?
I have to assume that while my anger was directed at the agent, he's a product of his environment. I would assume that those guys are under incredible pressure to not be the cause of a delay. It takes a captain with good SA to notice somebody in uniform with his face pressed against the glass and take control of the situation. I've flown with a couple guys who have taken a delay for passengers making a tight connection. It's really not a big deal from our perspective since there's really no negative repercussions if the delay is tagged to OPS. Usually an ACARS message asking for a reason, which most captains then blow off anyway. Most of us could care less about the stat chasers on the 4th floor, just want to fly a safe and efficient operation, but not (efficient) at the expense of taking care of each other.
01-04-2016 | 12:48 PM
#7349
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From: B777/CA retired
Yes, ironically our own fantasizing domestic "extremists" are the ones who want to carry in the cockpit, and would react to a minor challenge of their beliefs by going full-blown crazy when an adult tells them there is no Santa. These are the people you'd LEAST want to have guns in the cockpit. Yeah, it is a catch-22.
Think about that last odd super-religious pilot you last flew with. Substitute God with Allah, and give him a gun to carry around. No thanks.
I sometimes stop listening to 121.5 en route for this reason. It is hard for me to distinguish radio 1 from 2 from sound alone in my craft and the chatter drives me nuts. If center asks for ELT listen I always turn it back on.
Think about that last odd super-religious pilot you last flew with. Substitute God with Allah, and give him a gun to carry around. No thanks.
I sometimes stop listening to 121.5 en route for this reason. It is hard for me to distinguish radio 1 from 2 from sound alone in my craft and the chatter drives me nuts. If center asks for ELT listen I always turn it back on.
01-04-2016 | 01:14 PM
#7350
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From: B777/CA retired
Second hand tool nomination (last guy I flew with told me the story):
Christmas week a Falcon attempts to go VNY to OGG (Maui). Said Falcon has no HF radio. Mass confusion as ATC tries to convey to him that he needs to have a way to communicate to Oakland Oceanic. Finally another jet offers to relay position reports to ATC. Then, after all that, the guys gets about half way to the second fix on the track and decides he doesn't have the fuel to continue and wants a clearance to go to LAX. When asked if he wanted to back to VNY, he says, no, I need to go to LAX.
Sounds like the boss wanted to visit the islands for the holiday and Chippy the chief pilot said "sure" without doing a little research. It would also be interesting to see if they had rafts and vests. I'm thinking No.
Christmas week a Falcon attempts to go VNY to OGG (Maui). Said Falcon has no HF radio. Mass confusion as ATC tries to convey to him that he needs to have a way to communicate to Oakland Oceanic. Finally another jet offers to relay position reports to ATC. Then, after all that, the guys gets about half way to the second fix on the track and decides he doesn't have the fuel to continue and wants a clearance to go to LAX. When asked if he wanted to back to VNY, he says, no, I need to go to LAX.
Sounds like the boss wanted to visit the islands for the holiday and Chippy the chief pilot said "sure" without doing a little research. It would also be interesting to see if they had rafts and vests. I'm thinking No.
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