Isn't making fun of other people's mistakes the EXACT POINT OF THIS THREAD?

And I heard they were using that tape as a positive example on how to get your way with ATC at that certain unnamed air line ... Also heard they were going to modify their mottos to take advantage of this:
- Keep climbing ... and yelling at ATC
- The world's most trusted airline (to yell at ATC)
- We love to (yell at ATC) and it shows
- Airlines are the same--only our captains yell at ATC
- You'll love the way we yell at ATC .

.. Well, you get the idea.

 

Bingo... no way to justify captain happy, and he got what was coming to him from all the way up the food chain at the company.

 

Guys guys guys, STOP IT.

In the Internet/touchy feely age people should be allowed to act out and have people feel sorry for them for making a mistake. As well as give them a trophy. Doesn't matter it its CA Happy or a guy defending him on these fancy and fangled internetz thingies

 

Is he in open time a lot?

 

No clue. He's on the MD-88... that fleet is not where the light touches the lion kingdom.

 

In the realm of a flight, how he spoke to a ground controller is small potatoes. How'd the flight go? Have you ever shown up to work in a bad mood and snapped at someone you shouldn't have, then done a perfectly fine surgery?

I think the guy was out of line and deserved to get smacked down, but your example is a little over the top. I haven't seen any suggestion there were any safety issues with the flight.

 

This is actually a somewhat salient point.

I flew a 4 day trip with a guy, and the last "day" was a quick redeye from den-atl. An online pilot left his bag in the cockpit as he was deviating from his deadhead and riding back to atl. He left his bag where the CA normally puts his bag.

The CA lost his crap on the guy... full on yelling at him.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing- however 30 seconds after the the "offending" pilot left the cockpit with his bag, the CA was going "oh man... that was totally uncalled for." We had up until that point a great trip, and he was very enjoyable to hang out with on the layovers.

He operated at his normal level of professionalism with good conversation on the ride back to mecca- I did suggest he tried to patch things over with the dude he unloaded on.

I ended up on the employee bus with the 'victim" who said I'm so sorry for having to fly a trip with that a-hole. He didn't believe me when I said I didn't know what got into him, but he was really a good guy to fly with.

 

Ok Elliot. I saw your response to John Carr before you deleted it. You were definitely letting your Capt. Happy side shine through there. Interesting.

 

OK war story time! I was working as tower supvr at Eglin in the early 80s. We had a flight of 5 Aggressors (F-5s) taxing out. Lead asked GC something and GC didn't understand the request or question. Lead Mig (Mig their call sign) then proceeds to go off on the GC. We're all stunned in the tower cab. The SOF on duty (O-5 F-15 type) heard it too. He told GC to send have Mig flight to come up SOF frequency. Mig lead was ordered by the SOF to taxi back to the ramp, just him, while the rest of the flight was told to proceed onto their destination. Couldn't believe it but was very impressed by the SOF's action.

 

I can honestly say I haven't. I will speak pretty forcefully if something needs to get done now and will occasionally get mad if people are goofing off. However this guy is not in charge of himself or his emotions and that is worrisome for the 200+ people under his care. It is the E (possibly F) in the FAA's IMSAFE.

Not crashing or doing a "perfectly fine surgery" is a pretty low bar. Captain Happy completely destroys any aspects of good CRM with that outburst. Is his copilot going to be willing to tell him he is 10% off speed 10 miles out when he unloads like that?

I'm not saying the guy should be hung to dry or never fly again. I'm saying we should never condone this behavior or just kind of shrug it off. It is often a maker of something more and is deeply concerning.