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Old 09-26-2015 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
I suppose this is old news to more experienced captains, but I sure had a rude awakening the first time we landed and it became evident that the FO wasn't ready for the process. Lesson learned on my part.
That's what approach briefs are for.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
This problem is WAAAAAY beyond Pro Standards.
Words like that are reserved for LUS pilots b!tching about nAAtives.
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Old 09-26-2015 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
I'm a relatively new captain and I've found that a good FO can make the LGA experience relatively painless. I've started asking FOs if they're comfortable with the LGA procedure and giving them a quick brief on the peculiarities if they haven't had prior experience.

I suppose this is old news to more experienced captains, but I sure had a rude awakening the first time we landed and it became evident that the FO wasn't ready for the process. Lesson learned on my part.
Any pilot trained and deemed competent should have no issues with LGA regardless of WX or traffic saturation.

Can someone explain what has changed at LGA other than crowded ramp and taxiways? Visual approach guidance systems have improved. One can tune up the ILS 13 as a backup for the river visual. And hey... How about runway extensions now available as standard equipment on most FMS equipped jets at on extra charge.

OK.... newbies to LGA should be briefed on the crappy expensive airport food at LGA... I'll give you that.

You want to talk airports? One of my favorites was the old HKG checker board approach with snotty wind and rain. Then there's VNKT before GNSS Approaches were a dream. And then there was MHGT, that is before they blew the top of the mountain off.

Sorry for off track of the thread.... Afterall, at the end of the day, LGA is another busy airport with good approach aides which should prove to be a non-event event provided the brief and preparation is accomplished before ToD.

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Old 09-27-2015 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Any pilot trained and deemed competent should have no issues with LGA regardless of WX or traffic saturation.

Can someone explain what has changed at LGA other than crowded ramp and taxiways? Visual approach guidance systems have improved. One can tune up the ILS 13 as a backup for the river visual. And hey... How about runway extensions now available as standard equipment on most FMS equipped jets at on extra charge.

OK.... newbies to LGA should be briefed on the crappy expensive airport food at LGA... I'll give you that.

You want to talk airports? One of my favorites was the old HKG checker board approach with snotty wind and rain. Then there's VNKT before GNSS Approaches were a dream. And then there was MHGT, that is before they blew the top of the mountain off.

Sorry for off track of the thread.... Afterall, at the end of the day, LGA is another busy airport with good approach aides which should prove to be a non-event event provided the brief and preparation is accomplished before ToD.
Tool of the day: Anyone who comes to the TOTD thread and starts telling "That's nothing, back in my day..." stories.
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Old 09-27-2015 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Any pilot trained and deemed competent should have no issues with LGA regardless of WX or traffic saturation.
The stuff in the air is no sweat. It's the buffoonery on the ground that's hard to deal with.
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Old 09-27-2015 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
The stuff in the air is no sweat. It's the buffoonery on the ground that's hard to deal with.
Bingo! No change in that issue in the many years operating in and out, and over the airport when flying seaplanes.
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Old 09-27-2015 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by encore
Tool of the day: Anyone who comes to the TOTD thread and starts telling "That's nothing, back in my day..." stories.
And that folks is from a 120 some poster with little or no substance. Potential child of the green or magenta line?

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Old 09-27-2015 | 05:48 AM
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That "checkerboard" approach was sporty in a DC-9. I can't imagine doing it in a 747 or a DC-10.
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Old 09-27-2015 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
That "checkerboard" approach was sporty in a DC-9. I can't imagine doing it in a 747 or a DC-10.
Great fun in the 757.
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Old 09-27-2015 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
That "checkerboard" approach was sporty in a DC-9. I can't imagine doing it in a 747 or a DC-10.
Correct, vey sporting in the 74!
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