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Old 11-24-2015 | 06:58 PM
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I've had them either forget to salute/just walk off, or not ensure that we saw it before... better safe than sorry to get them back out there to do it again!
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Old 11-25-2015 | 05:16 AM
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From Delta Poolie thread:

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Now let's just let those calls for the jan/Feb classes go out!

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To the delta captain that called ramp in lax to send the Marshaller back out to give him a salute....thanks

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So you're dying to start work with a company you just can't resist (incorrectly) bashing on the interwebs? Welcome aboard, hope you can hide your disdain for at least your 1st year.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
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So you're dying to start work with a company you just can't resist (incorrectly) bashing on the interwebs? Welcome aboard, hope you can hide your disdain for at least your 1st year.
Maybe his TOTD comment was for the tug driver. He said thanks to the delta captain for getting the salute. Thanks for sticking to sop.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
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So you're dying to start work with a company you just can't resist (incorrectly) bashing on the interwebs? Welcome aboard, hope you can hide your disdain for at least your 1st year.
Nice find! I wonder if Capt Tunes will be on a lot of no fly lists in five years.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
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So you're dying to start work with a company you just can't resist (incorrectly) bashing on the interwebs? Welcome aboard, hope you can hide your disdain for at least your 1st year.
Thanks Mike, didn't realize we couldn't share things we hear on the radio. I'll admit I didn't know it was an FOM thing since I don't work there yet, but from hearing it on the radio it sounded pretty toolish. I have since been corrected.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I have since been corrected.
Good on ya, tunes. Nice to see someone get something slightly useful off of this thread instead of endless regional/legacy bashing.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 07:48 AM
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Old 11-25-2015 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
To the delta captain that called ramp in lax to send the Marshaller back out to give him a salute....thanks


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I'm sure that's not the case, Mike. On a 757 or anything bigger, the tug is under the nose. If not paying attention or heads down when they leave, there is no way to be certain no one is under there or in front of the aircraft.

I know this thread is reserved for the "Delta pilot haters" and believe me, there are some guys that make it easy to hate us, but this is a requirement for us and even if we miss the salute because we are busy doing something else, making someone come out to visually clear us is better than killing someone.
I'm addressing the OP. He said the captain insisted on getting a SALUTE. Like I said, TOTD, IF IF IF the captain insisted on an actual salute. I too can't see the tug or tow bar or have know if the NWS pin has been pulled unless I get a wave off. Most of the time it's a wave from the guy holding the pin as he walks away. Some guys will actually salute to which I usually acknowledge with a wave.

If Delta SOP is to require the ramper to stand at attention and SALUTE the captain, then I nominate Delta as TOTD.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
I'm addressing the OP. He said the captain insisted on getting a SALUTE. Like I said, TOTD, IF IF IF the captain insisted on an actual salute. I too can't see the tug or tow bar or have know if the NWS pin has been pulled unless I get a wave off. Most of the time it's a wave from the guy holding the pin as he walks away. Some guys will actually salute to which I usually acknowledge with a wave.

If Delta SOP is to require the ramper to stand at attention and SALUTE the captain, then I nominate Delta as TOTD.
At AA we also need an actual salute...woudn't you think if there's any question that its much easier to have someone just run out and give the hand gesture and allow everyone to continue according to SOP? Don't know what alternative you would have him do...have the guy plug the headset back in and talk? It's just a salute, for brevity purposes and legalese, not "holier than thou."

Guideman — Provide salute, indicating the area is clear.

After Start:

After ground equipment is clear, the captain has announced “I
have a salute”, and engine(s) are stabilized.
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Old 11-25-2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
I'm addressing the OP. He said the captain insisted on getting a SALUTE. Like I said, TOTD, IF IF IF the captain insisted on an actual salute. I too can't see the tug or tow bar or have know if the NWS pin has been pulled unless I get a wave off. Most of the time it's a wave from the guy holding the pin as he walks away. Some guys will actually salute to which I usually acknowledge with a wave.

If Delta SOP is to require the ramper to stand at attention and SALUTE the captain, then I nominate Delta as TOTD.
It's called a salute in our manuals, smarty. Before we start aircraft movement, the CA calls out "salute received, flaps xx, call for taxi." The rampers can wave, do a backflip, whatever... the CA didn't see the all clear action which is referred to as a salute so he called them back out. The standard is to salute, and it's rare to see anyone do anything other than that. That's it.

You're working your way well into TOTD land by responding like this!
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