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Old 11-26-2015, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
Where are you getting that he asked for info? He reported in, controller [helpfully in my book] informed him the baro had changed from posted ATIS and he inexplicably got butt hurt about the ATIS having a different setting.

Maybe I read it wrong
TOTD - JFK approach last night.
RJ checks in. Controller - "Kennedy altimeter 30.82, turn left heading ABC, descend and maintain XYZ."
RJ TOTD - "30.82?!?!? ATIS said it was 30.83!!"
I can't believe their was a tirade on behalf of the pilot checking in with JFK. The crew wanted clarification about the difference of the altimeter setting.

Seems like it was more of a dig against an RJ crew.

My comment was merely to understand why SB felt the Pilot in question was toolish... that's all.

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Old 11-26-2015, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
"Act like you've been here before."

Standard advice to rookies.
That's good advice.

You got any for those grandpas that act like they've NEVER been to ORD before even though both their respective airlines have had hubs/domicile there for decades? And the taxi instructions confuse the crap out of them?

And puhhhhhhleeeeeeze, "well, it's a busy airport so it's hard" isn't a valid rationale.

Even with the construction and changes the last 2 years, it's STILL rather simple.

Weird how a busy airport that's chaotic and not as easily laid out as others is one of the EASIEST to get around.

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Every company I've worked for, to include the U.S. military, had zero interest in accurate information. We just wing it.
That's good too I guess, depending on the arbitrary and subjective margins and conditions. But taking a blasť attitude could get one in trouble, etc. *cough cough* 1572 *cough cough*.

Hey, let's throw in the T-birds too....

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Old 11-27-2015, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr View Post
it's STILL rather simple.

Weird how a busy airport that's chaotic and not as easily laid out as others is one of the EASIEST to get around.

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Now we KNOW you're insane! ORD BLOWS goats!
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
Ugh, I'm so glad I don't work for that kind of airline.
I'm sure feelings are mutual here, Mike...
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns View Post
Sooooo let me get this straight.... asking for asking for correct altimeter setting is toolish? I guess a crew flying a big jet asking for a correct altimeter setting is OK
10 feet is EVERYTHING.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:49 AM
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"Windcheck!" When the three previous arrivals all asked the same thing. And LLWS Advisories are not in effect.
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Old 11-27-2015, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RI830 View Post
"Windcheck!" When the three previous arrivals all asked the same thing. And LLWS Advisories are not in effect.
The great thing about most EFIS installations with GPS...they have the winds depicted for you.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonepilot469 View Post
10 feet is EVERYTHING.
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/A...ts/AAR9605.pdf

Don't preach to me.... Convince the passengers of AA1572.
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonepilot469 View Post
10 feet is EVERYTHING.
I swear, reading comprehension here is abysmal.

The tool factor comes not from checking the altimeter setting. I think we can all agree that altimeter setting are important. The toolishness comes from being astounded that it moved .01 from the ATIS and being offended that the announced altimeter setting varied from the setting given on the ATIS.

Sheesh,
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Old 11-27-2015, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike View Post
I swear, reading comprehension here is abysmal.

The tool factor comes not from checking the altimeter setting. I think we can all agree that altimeter setting are important. The toolishness comes from being astounded that it moved .01 from the ATIS and being offended that the announced altimeter setting varied from the setting given on the ATIS.

Sheesh,
I would agree.

But since ONLY one person in the thread heard the ATC exchange, who's to say they (the one making the stink over .01) WERENT being sarcastic with their statement to approach?
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