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Old 06-05-2016 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
See I get all that but my issue was I was initially cleared for the jumpseat. I was holding the physical captains copy. I don't know why the gate agent cleared me so early but that's besides the fact. Right as boarding was to begin, she came up to the counter, saw me standing there and that's when she told me sorry I'm going to list and bump you so I can go to my party. I don't know why she mentioned to me her party or even spoke to me in the first place.
I can't even count the number of times (okay, 6) that I had a Delta jumpseat CA pass copy and then 10-15 minutes prior to departure a Delta guy comes and takes the jumpseat. His metal = his priority. The fact she looked up flights for you is a nice gesture on her end.
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Old 06-05-2016 | 10:15 PM
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I don't see what the problem is. Her company metal, her priority. She actually sounds nice if she took the time to look up flights/loads for you to find another option.
I'd have to agree 100% with this.

In all my years jumpseating, I rarely even talk to other jumpseaters in the gate area.

And this is one of the reasons why. Not to sound callous, but I don't care if you're going to work or a funeral. Nor do I except you to care where I'm going. Hawaii or work, it doesn't matter.

I don't see how anyone could get angry at someone else just exercising the Jumpseat priority that the various company's have established for them. Or why it matters how many suitcases she had.

It's one thing if she came over and made a point of being a dick to you about bumping you off the flight. But your story doesn't make it sound like that's what happened.

Most companies have commuter policies these days as well.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
I submit this as TOTD, or maybe DOTD...
Well, he's right. Commuting sucks- always has always will.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by skater3260
Well, he's right. Commuting sucks- always has always will.
I agree, I've been two legging it for 10 years, we all know the risks, and assume such. But the line, "what's your excuse next time", is pretty douchey. Someone that hardlines a commuter with that BS, in my opinion, is far more toolish. It IS professional courtesy, in due time, what goes around, comes around. I don't take that as a threat or whining. Skywest had every right to the JS, but she is not, in the right. No one is required to exercise professional courtesy, and some, as evident, may not be aware of such things. There will be a time when she will need someone to help her out, and she may not get that help, simple as that, that is not a threat, it's the reality.

My exception is the coarse arrogance of the response, "get a tissue"? Here's one for you, be the adult, be a professional, assume the best of your fellow aviators, don't be a douche about it.

Enjoy your caviar.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by skypine27

It's one thing if she came over and made a point of being a dick to you about bumping you off the flight. But your story doesn't make it sound like that's what happened.
No this is exactly what happened, it's the entire story. She never checked loads for me, she just said there's other flights leaving today.
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BeechedJet
No this is exactly what happened, it's the entire story. She never checked loads for me, she just said there's other flights leaving today.
The bottom line is...you are out of line. I don't care if she wanted to ride the JS just for the view, if it is her metal, and not yours, you have no right to the JS ahead of her. At DAL we can book the JS for "personal travel" (though not as early as guys going to/from work) and I can promise you, if the only option is I get to my "personal" appointment by riding my OWN JS...or you, an offline guy gets to go to work while commuting on my metal...you will be taking a different JS.

Now if I could take even the cruddiest seat in the back, to include a cabin JS, to help you out, I would. But if there were no other options, I cannot believe that you expect someone on their own metal to stay at the gate while you get to go to work on another airline's metal, and she gets to not use the privilege of the JS on her own metal.

Am I missing something?
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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
I submit this as TOTD, or maybe DOTD...
Not to worry pee wee... you too may be the one in the same situation during your career... you may be the one bumbling the off liner from your company's jumpseat so you can attend a dive party reunion.

Then you can nominate yourself TOTD.

For what it's worth, I've been bumped by last minute shows over the course of my career. It is what it is and can't be thin skinned about it. I've taken the last seat in economy in the row between two whales that haven't bathed in weeks so an offliner could get the jump seat. That too is what the career is all about.

In hope you will extend the same courtesy to your fellow professionals.

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Old 06-06-2016 | 04:46 AM
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The choice of commuting comes with risks and situations just as the one mentioned. The Skywest pilot had priority for the jumpseat and exercised it. Many at other carriers would do the same. It really does not matter why, where, out of uniform etc. She had the right to be somewhere just as much as anyone else and she was under no obligation to give up that right or offer you any alternatives. Morale of the story? Move to base if you can!
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Old 06-06-2016 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
I agree, I've been two legging it for 10 years, we all know the risks, and assume such. But the line, "what's your excuse next time", is pretty douchey. Someone that hardlines a commuter with that BS, in my opinion, is far more toolish. It IS professional courtesy, in due time, what goes around, comes around. I don't take that as a threat or whining. Skywest had every right to the JS, but she is not, in the right. No one is required to exercise professional courtesy, and some, as evident, may not be aware of such things. There will be a time when she will need someone to help her out, and she may not get that help, simple as that, that is not a threat, it's the reality.

My exception is the coarse arrogance of the response, "get a tissue"? Here's one for you, be the adult, be a professional, assume the best of your fellow aviators, don't be a douche about it.

Enjoy your caviar.
come on dude. its her metal...period. What if the engagement party was for her best friend since she was a kid? would it be ok then? should she miss her best friends one engagement party so that some OAL guy can get on a JS? would you?

when i am traveling its for a reason and i will bump anyone off my own companies JS if I need to. And i dont get butt hurt when i get bumped....its like getting mad at the sun for being hot.

come on
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Old 06-06-2016 | 05:18 AM
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Guys, I get it. I stated that a million times already. The part I didn't like was the way she talked to me when she did it. That's is. She didn't need to tell me a reason and she didn't need to smile when she did it. That's all there is to it.

I know it's her own metal and I know the priority. All I'm saying if you bump someone, don't be a dick about it.
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