Terms that annoy you on the radio
08-27-2013, 09:26 AM
#51
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At my facility, we don't coordinate each airplane like that, but we have procedures that dictate how airplanes will be delivered from feeder to feeder and feeder to final controllers (sometimes we coordinate individual airplanes). If I did get you from another controller in my facility, it is true that I don't have to verify your mode C, but if you're not level, I like to hear to what altitude you're descending; mistakes or miscommunication does happen.
If you are checking in to approach from the center, "Descending to 10,000" when you're going through 12,500 requires me to verify your mode C the same way as "climbing to 5000" does on departure.
If you are checking in to approach from the center, "Descending to 10,000" when you're going through 12,500 requires me to verify your mode C the same way as "climbing to 5000" does on departure.
08-27-2013, 10:04 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by N9373M
Wouldn't you want to know which end of the runway they were taking? Calm winds, or somebody trying to short cut a circle in the pattern before leaving? I prefer using the actual runway #. Taking 13, clear of 13, etc.
I fly into a couple places like this, fortunately both are pretty nice to newcomers though. But their position reports are terrible, and there are occasionally those that (still legally) do not even use a radio.
08-27-2013, 10:27 AM
#53
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Originally Posted by Snarge
On a side note:
When switching Center frequencies intra-facility, stating altitude on the new freq is redundant. The same 'electronics' and radar that validated the altitude on initial check in with that facility is the same radar.
In the terminal environment, switching from the initial controller to the final controller... all that could be said is 'American 123, on frequency' because the initial controller told the final controller ... 'I am giving you American 123, HDG 090, 6000, speed 180.
Thoughts?
When switching Center frequencies intra-facility, stating altitude on the new freq is redundant. The same 'electronics' and radar that validated the altitude on initial check in with that facility is the same radar.
In the terminal environment, switching from the initial controller to the final controller... all that could be said is 'American 123, on frequency' because the initial controller told the final controller ... 'I am giving you American 123, HDG 090, 6000, speed 180.
Thoughts?
09-09-2013, 05:30 PM
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Deltas 123, Amercans, 123 etc.
Any word or phrase that is intended to be cute. I.E. "On the hold", "....conga line", "in the penalty box" etc.
"As-salam" (short for "God be with you" in Arabic) Nobody‘s god, Christian or Muslim, belongs on the freq. It‘s practically standard in the ME. I realize when I‘m in their country, tough doodoo for me, so I digress. But I can still think it.
Any word or phrase that is intended to be cute. I.E. "On the hold", "....conga line", "in the penalty box" etc.
"As-salam" (short for "God be with you" in Arabic) Nobody‘s god, Christian or Muslim, belongs on the freq. It‘s practically standard in the ME. I realize when I‘m in their country, tough doodoo for me, so I digress. But I can still think it.
09-10-2013, 04:15 AM
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And these people want me to have something on my license saying I understand English?
Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed
That's actual ICAO phraseology. Still, I never liked it much either.
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