Hawaiian Hiring FOs
01-30-2025 | 08:10 AM
#821
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01-30-2025 | 11:02 AM
#822
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From: Cessna 205
I think that’s is why it’s a poor choice. All of the new engines don’t react well to short cruise and high cycle counts.
01-31-2025 | 07:40 AM
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There is no SEA-HND on JAL. While HND is the better airport for Tokyo O&D traffic, who knows what percentage of AS's pax are doing that. With OneWorld, the goal may be to connect throughout Asia. In fact, today out of SEA you have DAL and ANA serving HND. But JAL and soon HAL go to NRT.
01-31-2025 | 02:39 PM
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From: 737 FO
It was designed for long, thin routes. The exact opposite of inter-island ops.
02-01-2025 | 07:46 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
From an engine perspective, turboprops are obviously mo betta.
02-03-2025 | 06:37 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
I said that a few posts up.
But when they actually build them anymore, they're optimized for regional short-haul and don't have room for cargo other than checked bags.
I don't think anyone other other than ATR (or maybe RU/PRC) even makes them anymore. I don't think they'd bring on a new fleet just to do the same thing the 175 can do.
If you really wanted to get creative you could bring back the 737 Combi... take pax and plenty of cargo that way. I think AS got rid of them due to regulatory issues with pax + cargo? Maybe MAX7 Combi? Still not great for engine wear though.
But when they actually build them anymore, they're optimized for regional short-haul and don't have room for cargo other than checked bags.
I don't think anyone other other than ATR (or maybe RU/PRC) even makes them anymore. I don't think they'd bring on a new fleet just to do the same thing the 175 can do.
If you really wanted to get creative you could bring back the 737 Combi... take pax and plenty of cargo that way. I think AS got rid of them due to regulatory issues with pax + cargo? Maybe MAX7 Combi? Still not great for engine wear though.
02-03-2025 | 07:10 AM
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Aloha used operate 737 pax birds as freighters at night. Normally four at night. Conversion was quick about 20 minutes.
Seats went back in in the morning.
They also had a couple of 300 or 400 series with doors as ell, except they had crack issiues due to the aftermarket cargo door installations.
Seats went back in in the morning.
They also had a couple of 300 or 400 series with doors as ell, except they had crack issiues due to the aftermarket cargo door installations.
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