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Old 02-03-2025 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama
Aloha used operate 737 pax birds as freighters at night. Normally four at night. Conversion was quick about 20 minutes.
Seats went back in in the morning.
They also had a couple of 300 or 400 series with doors as ell, except they had crack issiues due to the aftermarket cargo door installations.
Had kinda hoped Ohana would have gone this way with Cessna Skycourier instead of the way of the Molokai Creeper (a bird that went extinct). Handfull of 408s that kept moving; pax in the daytime, cargo at night.
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Old 02-03-2025 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rama
Aloha used operate 737 pax birds as freighters at night. Normally four at night. Conversion was quick about 20 minutes.
Seats went back in in the morning.
They also had a couple of 300 or 400 series with doors as ell, except they had crack issiues due to the aftermarket cargo door installations.
The 300s crack issues always seemed to be on the opposite side of the cargo door when I flew them. I always thought it was because of the way the cans were slammed into that side during loading.
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Old 02-03-2025 | 10:07 PM
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Can't say what caused it, but being a wrench we would open up the panels on the right side below the main deck floor so QC could do NDT testing.
Someone had told me it was because Boeing designed the aircraft to have some flex in it, but the door installations all the airframe stiffening led to the cracks.
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Old 02-07-2025 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama
Can't say what caused it, but being a wrench we would open up the panels on the right side below the main deck floor so QC could do NDT testing.
Someone had told me it was because Boeing designed the aircraft to have some flex in it, but the door installations all the airframe stiffening led to the cracks.
One can see how a big door frame on one side might change the way the other side flexes, make it not symmetrical and induce some twisting.

You could probably solve that with some stiffeners in the shape of a door frame opposite the actual frame.

Modern computational analysis should be able to predict such potential issues.
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Old 02-07-2025 | 04:46 PM
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Ok back on track and topic, Hawaiian just started a class of 19 this week.
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Old 02-07-2025 | 07:26 PM
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Ok back on track and topic, Hawaiian just started a class of 19 this week.
NEO? (Filler)
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Old 02-07-2025 | 08:41 PM
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IDK, the email didnt specify. We have vacancies from the previous bid in most airframes, except freight.
The December and January classes were all A321.
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Old 02-08-2025 | 03:16 PM
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Any word on when the next classes will be?
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Old 02-09-2025 | 07:23 PM
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If the hiring plan for the year was 50, and there's already been classes of 12 in Jan and 19 in Feb, does this suggest that they've revised hiring for the year upwards. Or is it just frontloaded into the first half of the year?
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Old 02-09-2025 | 08:15 PM
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There was 10 last December and 10 in January, 19 this month.
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