Originally Posted by Sliceback

AA required TPIC in the last hiring cycle. Plenty of guys had that. Fast forward to 2014 and there are lot of decent pilots who havn't had the opportunity to upgrade. It appears that AA mgt has made the decision to open up the size of the applicant pool by not requiring TPIC for at least some, or a percentage, of the newhires.

Originally Posted by Sliceback

Presenter said - put as much detail as possible into the ** application **. Details and additional info can help, especially on an electronic system.

Resumes? They should be shorter, cleaner, and clearer. Average resume gets ** 6 ** seconds of review. You will get more time but make sure the most important stuff is obvious. FAPA folks said "we tell them that all the time."

Figure out the top 3/4/5 flight experience you want the reviewer to see and make sure your resume format highlights that. IMO TT, PIC, TPIC, Jet/Turboprop. Type ratings. MIL IP. CKA. Night time? Meh. Instrument time? Meh. Part 121? Ugh. If your resume is full of 121 flying the reviewer will know you have 121 time. It muddies your resume when you want him to focus on the big 3/4/5. If you're a ANG/reserve and civilian making that #5 might be good - TT, PIC, TPIC, Jet, MIL/Civilian TT *IF* you think it helps improve your resume.

Drop the fluff and it leaves space for the community service stuff. Coaching kids team is service, helping at schools, union work, mentoring, teaching, charities, the list is endless.

If you're a military fighter guy you don't have to use 5 lines of text explaining duties. For non flying jobs? Sure. But not for a flying job. A reviewer/interviewer will know OR ask you about it if necessary. If it's unique put it down.

eg. -

F-15C/D IP, Stan/Eval,
F-15E IP, Safety IMO is good enough.

IMO some of the stuff is obvious (IP, Stan/Eval, PIC, TPIC). Others less so (CSAR, FAC, ALO). IMO shorter is better UNLESS it's really special and you want it to stand out so the reviewer can ask OR you can mention it. Putting down ATCTIPY is confusing. "Awarded Air Training Command Top IP of the Year" needs to be spelled out. ;-)

Airline guy? Don't put down 4 lines of fluff - responsible for safe operation, adherence to company policies, etc, etc. with each job. That's what we ALL do.

If you have something additional/special mention it. *** IT GETS LOST IF YOU HAVE LINES AND LINES OF UNNECESSARY FLUFF ***

Listing your AF training medal, or 'alive in '91 medal' is pointless. Air Force Cross? Silver Star? Mention it.

Originally Posted by John Carr

Are you sure about that? I know people that interviewed pre 9/11 with ZERO TPIC.

There's also a poster on here (AA73 maybe?) that's stated he didn't have any when hired, was a regional turboprop FO.

Originally Posted by Sliceback

Presenter said - put as much detail as possible into the ** application **. Details and additional info can help, especially on an electronic system.

Resumes? They should be shorter, cleaner, and clearer. Average resume gets ** 6 ** seconds of review. You will get more time but make sure the most important stuff is obvious. FAPA folks said "we tell them that all the time."

Figure out the top 3/4/5 flight experience you want the reviewer to see and make sure your resume format highlights that. IMO TT, PIC, TPIC, Jet/Turboprop. Type ratings. MIL IP. CKA. Night time? Meh. Instrument time? Meh. Part 121? Ugh. If your resume is full of 121 flying the reviewer will know you have 121 time. It muddies your resume when you want him to focus on the big 3/4/5. If you're a ANG/reserve and civilian making that #5 might be good - TT, PIC, TPIC, Jet, MIL/Civilian TT *IF* you think it helps improve your resume.

Drop the fluff and it leaves space for the community service stuff. Coaching kids team is service, helping at schools, union work, mentoring, teaching, charities, the list is endless.

If you're a military fighter guy you don't have to use 5 lines of text explaining duties. For non flying jobs? Sure. But not for a flying job. A reviewer/interviewer will know OR ask you about it if necessary. If it's unique put it down.

eg. -

F-15C/D IP, Stan/Eval,
F-15E IP, Safety IMO is good enough.

IMO some of the stuff is obvious (IP, Stan/Eval, PIC, TPIC). Others less so (CSAR, FAC, ALO). IMO shorter is better UNLESS it's really special and you want it to stand out so the reviewer can ask OR you can mention it. Putting down ATCTIPY is confusing. "Awarded Air Training Command Top IP of the Year" needs to be spelled out. ;-)

Airline guy? Don't put down 4 lines of fluff - responsible for safe operation, adherence to company policies, etc, etc. with each job. That's what we ALL do.

If you have something additional/special mention it. *** IT GETS LOST IF YOU HAVE LINES AND LINES OF UNNECESSARY FLUFF ***

Listing your AF training medal, or 'alive in '91 medal' is pointless. Air Force Cross? Silver Star? Mention it.

Originally Posted by Macdacpilot

I've had an application in with AAL since the week they opened up the window in October, but my availability date is not until this summer.

Does anyone know if I would know by now whether or not I've passed or failed the "Organizational Fit Assessment," or do they wait until your availability date is a certain distance out before screening the application?

I have a friend that got the TBNT e-mail from AAL, but his availability date was immediate. I have not heard anything from AAL up to this point.