PSA is hiring!
02-15-2014 | 08:02 PM
#81
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You don't think it's desperate? OK, do you think Google goes on the engineering forums, posts anonymously, and tells everyone "how wonderful" their company is to work for in an attempt to recruit applicants? Does United post over in the majors forums to tell everyone how great their airline is in an attempt to recruit? FedEx? Delta?
The point is that if PSA was such a great airline to work for, no one would have to come on an aviation internet forum and "tell" us. The pilot community is incredibly small. We'd already know. It's not proactive. It's desperate. It's a "let's do every possible thing we can to convince people to come fly for us EXCEPT pay a living wage and treat our pilots well" type of thing.
And there isn't much difference between what PSA is doing here and what Eagle is doing on FaceBook. They're desperate too.
The point is that if PSA was such a great airline to work for, no one would have to come on an aviation internet forum and "tell" us. The pilot community is incredibly small. We'd already know. It's not proactive. It's desperate. It's a "let's do every possible thing we can to convince people to come fly for us EXCEPT pay a living wage and treat our pilots well" type of thing.
And there isn't much difference between what PSA is doing here and what Eagle is doing on FaceBook. They're desperate too.
Last edited by fullflank; 02-15-2014 at 08:15 PM.
02-16-2014 | 05:25 AM
#82
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From: 767 CA
Go wherever it is that affords you what you deem most important in YOUR life....Whether it's basing, commute, equipment, reserve life etc etc...
I spent time at 2 regionals, did the 91/135, did the largest fractional, did some King Air work, and now am at a Legacy.. furloughed twice, a few bankruptcy contracts, commuted a short distance for a few years, have lived in base, have waited years and years for an upgrade etc etc...
Now that I made it to where I want to be (Long Haul International etc) the 10 years I spent trying to get here seem worth it. I hardly remember the really bad stuff to get here, and often relish the time I spent at a regional.. At times it was really fun and since I was a newbie then I learned a great deal. Did some cool flying in crap weather 4-5 legs a day. (Luckily I worked for a "better" regional with good hotels and a better contract, ya know, the one that got whipsawed out of business 2 years ago)
It is what it is, go in knowing it will get better depending on what moves you make to better your career.. (In my case the regionals were stagnating so I bailed to do some corporate flying, it worked out in the end for me)..
The guys who truly think they are soooooo awesome that they will spend 2 years in the right seat, 2 years in the left seat and be at a Legacy are the guys who are bitter.
Be humble in the right seat, and go there knowing
A) You do not know everything, and
B) the guy to your left has been there and done that.
C) No one cares what you did in a 402 while hauling a few bank checks across state lines (just an example from a guy I flew with in the past)
It'll allow you to learn from experience rather than be annoyed at every little thing each Captain does differently. If you can upgrade within 4-5 years consider yourself fairly lucky.....
If you keep flying, try not to be too disgruntled (everyone is allowed to complain a little bit), and keep your eye on the prize (whatever it may be for YOU), you'll make it out in the end.
Good luck
PS... take any advice on here with a serious grain of salt.... Pilots are notorious for thinking they are always right..
I spent time at 2 regionals, did the 91/135, did the largest fractional, did some King Air work, and now am at a Legacy.. furloughed twice, a few bankruptcy contracts, commuted a short distance for a few years, have lived in base, have waited years and years for an upgrade etc etc...
Now that I made it to where I want to be (Long Haul International etc) the 10 years I spent trying to get here seem worth it. I hardly remember the really bad stuff to get here, and often relish the time I spent at a regional.. At times it was really fun and since I was a newbie then I learned a great deal. Did some cool flying in crap weather 4-5 legs a day. (Luckily I worked for a "better" regional with good hotels and a better contract, ya know, the one that got whipsawed out of business 2 years ago)
It is what it is, go in knowing it will get better depending on what moves you make to better your career.. (In my case the regionals were stagnating so I bailed to do some corporate flying, it worked out in the end for me)..
The guys who truly think they are soooooo awesome that they will spend 2 years in the right seat, 2 years in the left seat and be at a Legacy are the guys who are bitter.
Be humble in the right seat, and go there knowing
A) You do not know everything, and
B) the guy to your left has been there and done that.
C) No one cares what you did in a 402 while hauling a few bank checks across state lines (just an example from a guy I flew with in the past)
It'll allow you to learn from experience rather than be annoyed at every little thing each Captain does differently. If you can upgrade within 4-5 years consider yourself fairly lucky.....
If you keep flying, try not to be too disgruntled (everyone is allowed to complain a little bit), and keep your eye on the prize (whatever it may be for YOU), you'll make it out in the end.
Good luck
PS... take any advice on here with a serious grain of salt.... Pilots are notorious for thinking they are always right..
02-28-2014 | 05:15 AM
#83
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I know these have been answered before , but i am looking for current and fresh information on PSA training:
1. Where is training conducted?
2. How long is indoc, systems and sim?
3. Lodging during training?
4. Compensation/pay during training?
Thank you.
1. Where is training conducted?
2. How long is indoc, systems and sim?
3. Lodging during training?
4. Compensation/pay during training?
Thank you.
02-28-2014 | 05:26 PM
#84
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Joined: Dec 2011
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From: Between Gigs
1. Where is training conducted? Dayton(Vandalia), OH
2. How long is indoc, systems and sim? Gnd School 5 weeks, Sim 2 wks, IOE 2-3 weeks
3. Lodging during training? Yes. Single occupancy
4. Compensation/pay during training? Reserve Guarantee + per diem
Thank you.
Expect breaks between gnd/sim/IOE
2. How long is indoc, systems and sim? Gnd School 5 weeks, Sim 2 wks, IOE 2-3 weeks
3. Lodging during training? Yes. Single occupancy
4. Compensation/pay during training? Reserve Guarantee + per diem
Thank you.
Expect breaks between gnd/sim/IOE
03-02-2014 | 06:13 AM
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From: GV Captain
1. Low enough to qualify for food stamps.
2. Yes.
3.Do your homework for this particular airline. Go to any airport and ask any pilot his opinion on PSA airlines. Heck, you don't even have to do that, the internet is your friend!
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