Is sexism/racism still an issue?
01-10-2017, 04:22 AM
#43
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My daughter is an engineer, working for a large company that hires a disproportionate number of female engineers. They are not trying too, it is simply a result of their putting a high priority on social skills during the interview process.
And I am not surprised. Years ago I used to participate in my employer's hiring/interview process, and it was very rare for female applicants to be condescending to the receptionists, snap at the van drivers or bristle when questioned about a resume issue during the interview itself. On the other hand it was common to find male applicants doing these things (and yes, having an attitude towards the "little people" can cost you a job).
And for the record I am an old white guy.
And I am not surprised. Years ago I used to participate in my employer's hiring/interview process, and it was very rare for female applicants to be condescending to the receptionists, snap at the van drivers or bristle when questioned about a resume issue during the interview itself. On the other hand it was common to find male applicants doing these things (and yes, having an attitude towards the "little people" can cost you a job).
And for the record I am an old white guy.
01-10-2017, 07:57 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by 742Dash
My daughter is an engineer, working for a large company that hires a disproportionate number of female engineers. They are not trying too, it is simply a result of their putting a high priority on social skills during the interview process.
And I am not surprised. Years ago I used to participate in my employer's hiring/interview process, and it was very rare for female applicants to be condescending to the receptionists, snap at the van drivers or bristle when questioned about a resume issue during the interview itself. On the other hand it was common to find male applicants doing these things (and yes, having an attitude towards the "little people" can cost you a job).
And for the record I am an old white guy.
And I am not surprised. Years ago I used to participate in my employer's hiring/interview process, and it was very rare for female applicants to be condescending to the receptionists, snap at the van drivers or bristle when questioned about a resume issue during the interview itself. On the other hand it was common to find male applicants doing these things (and yes, having an attitude towards the "little people" can cost you a job).
And for the record I am an old white guy.
01-10-2017, 09:52 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
...and when women are strong-willed/opinionated, decisive, and/or stand their ground the way men are expected to they are often derisively called a b**ch.
01-10-2017, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
...and when women are strong-willed/opinionated, decisive, and/or stand their ground the way men are expected to they are often derisively called a b**ch.
I've flown with more than a few that were fully capable of being strong/decisive CA's/leaders WITHOUT the attitude/meltdown micromanaging, what have you. Coincidentally, they were some of the most respected CA's.
The above is almost becoming the scapegoat/copout for when a woman gets challenged on her decisions or leadership.
01-10-2017, 10:17 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Well, depends on said female.
I've flown with more than a few that were fully capable of being strong/decisive CA's/leaders WITHOUT the attitude/meltdown micromanaging, what have you.
I've flown with more than a few that were fully capable of being strong/decisive CA's/leaders WITHOUT the attitude/meltdown micromanaging, what have you.
The above is almost becoming the scapegoat/copout for when a woman gets challenged on her decisions or leadership.
And let's be honest, we all know guys that default to a "she's a B" attitude when faced with a strong female personality and that is what I'm talking about.
01-10-2017, 10:27 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by f10a
Noble qualities indeed. Notwithstanding, woman tend to be quite passive and cave under duress. Have had many otherwise competent female pilots have total melt downs over seemingly insignificant issues. Sorry, but I'd rather have a guy who snaps at incompetent little people vs having to have a box of tissues to hand out while walking on egg shells.
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