AirplanesRkewl

Maybe fall 2021. 100% not this year

toolowgoaround

You're that confident?

hydrostream

Yeah I’d say it’s closer to 32.333%

Repeating of course.

AirplanesRkewl

Passenger numbers and bookings are starting to level off around 25%. Covid cases are increasing and places are shutting down again and thousands of pilots are getting furloughed. So yeah I'm that confident. Even with the AK flying. No need for the company to hire pilots any time soon with potential furloughs come October. Not sure why people think Horizon is so safe from furloughs with flying still down so much

AirplanesRkewl

Just being realistic. On a positive note I'll be able to try out a second career to hopefully have as a side gig once I get to fly again

BigfatQ

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I think we could be flying more if we were offering more flights. With the 65% booking cap we're actually flying at an 87% load factor if I calculated correctly.

porkchopexpress

According to J. Sprague, SEA departures in Aug are "essentially back to pre-Covid summer projections" and we have two upgrade classes in Sep in the E175. The start of E175 service into Alaska in October is supposed to make room for more Q400 flying. I don't know if or when that will translate into hiring, but it's certainly positive compared to the immense difficulties around the industry. Hopefully the fall dip won't be too severe.

toolowgoaround

Let's hope. This is definitely better than all the doom and gloom news lately.

TyWebb

I really hope the Alaska flying does open up more flying for the Q. That's the only reason I voted yes. As a 175 person, I have no interest in the new Alaska flying but will do it if needed to make sure no Q's are parked (yep that's a virtue signal at its best). There seems to be a contingent of long-timers that are pushing the NO vote and want concessions. To me that's a little tone-deaf at this moment in time. Could we get 4.0 or 4.2 daily min for the jet? Maybe... but how does that sit for the other part of our pilot group. I'm not doing 5-7 SEA/PDX - RDM/MFR/EAT, etc turns all day, and to me, at this moment that's a fair trade-off. I personally can make up for that by bidding better, more efficient trips. It would be nice to have language about a contract renegotiation after the recovery, but is it worth the NO vote right now? Maybe for some and that probably warrants a vote of NO. Hard to argue either way, but if there's one Q parked during the fall/winter then we need to do something drastic before the summer flying of 2021.

During the spring slowdown, we saw the Q take back routes such as SEA-BZM, SEA-RNO, GEG, BOI, RDM. But we know AAG isn't going to let the Q fly into the pretentious state of California. So, are those routes enough to keep you all flying without having any Q's parked? I just hope we aren't being misled by tugs on our collective heartstrings.

BigfatQ

The language is too open, I think probably not even on purpose. If we voted it down they could just hash out the details and put it up for another vote. They want to give us the flying, the lines are already being planned