Positive news thread
07-21-2020 | 06:08 AM
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From the AS mainline forum:
That's got to be good news for everyone at AAG, including us. Granted, this could still go even more sideways than it already has, but this news combined with promising vaccine trials from at least two different sources has me very optimistic.
Over 700 leaves/early outs of 1 year+ duration. I think that was the main number we needed to see in order to determine the furlough question. Over 900 total leaves/early outs awarded. That's way larger than even the most optimistic thought at the start of this. Unless you were Seattle or Anchorage-based, it looks like you got a leave if you wanted one.
The company has sent out a notice saying that no furlough will be necessary unless something else unforeseeable happens. In fact, VP-ops seems to warn against getting too comfortable on leave and to expect to be called back early.
The company has sent out a notice saying that no furlough will be necessary unless something else unforeseeable happens. In fact, VP-ops seems to warn against getting too comfortable on leave and to expect to be called back early.
07-21-2020 | 10:27 AM
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From the AS mainline forum:
That's got to be good news for everyone at AAG, including us. Granted, this could still go even more sideways than it already has, but this news combined with promising vaccine trials from at least two different sources has me very optimistic.
That's got to be good news for everyone at AAG, including us. Granted, this could still go even more sideways than it already has, but this news combined with promising vaccine trials from at least two different sources has me very optimistic.
I'll take it. Seems like QX is pretty well positioned to weather this. But, as we all know, things can go sideways come fall.
07-23-2020 | 11:11 PM
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I think it's hilarious that we voted yes for the loa for Alaska flying and bs furlough mitigation which we still have no idea what's going on. Ibt needs to grow a pair and actually do something for the pilot group. Not good when you're own union thinks the loa and Alaska flying is a joke
07-24-2020 | 05:44 AM
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I think it's hilarious that we voted yes for the loa for Alaska flying and bs furlough mitigation which we still have no idea what's going on. Ibt needs to grow a pair and actually do something for the pilot group. Not good when you're own union thinks the loa and Alaska flying is a joke
To be clear, the Alaska flying was going to happen whether we wanted it or not. Alaska Air Group owns the planes and has total control over our flying and markets. Our union basically was able to implement a furlough mitigation program in exchange for some of the company's conditions on the Alaska flying (the "base within a base" concept and pilot experience requirements). Having SOME plan for reducing furloughs is a "win" in my book.
I have been here through 9/11. the 2009-2011 recession, and the current pandemic. Here's how the COMPANY and the UNION have responded to those previous downturns:
9/11: "You're furloughed! Here's the phone number for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2009-2011: "You're furloughed! Here's the web site address for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2020: The company and the union put together a furlough mitigation program.
Finally, a union is only as strong as the pilot group. It's easy to complain about "The Union" (and, trust me, I've done plenty of it), but we all need to do our part. The furlough mitigation LOA passed with only about 60% of our pilot group taking the time to vote. Why wasn't this 100%? If you don't like what the union is doing, then get involved... make it work for you.
07-24-2020 | 07:16 AM
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I am a little confused by your comment. What were your concerns regarding the LOA and the Alaska flying? And what do you expect the union to "do for the pilot group"?
To be clear, the Alaska flying was going to happen whether we wanted it or not. Alaska Air Group owns the planes and has total control over our flying and markets. Our union basically was able to implement a furlough mitigation program in exchange for some of the company's conditions on the Alaska flying (the "base within a base" concept and pilot experience requirements). Having SOME plan for reducing furloughs is a "win" in my book.
I have been here through 9/11. the 2009-2011 recession, and the current pandemic. Here's how the COMPANY and the UNION have responded to those previous downturns:
9/11: "You're furloughed! Here's the phone number for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2009-2011: "You're furloughed! Here's the web site address for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2020: The company and the union put together a furlough mitigation program.
Finally, a union is only as strong as the pilot group. It's easy to complain about "The Union" (and, trust me, I've done plenty of it), but we all need to do our part. The furlough mitigation LOA passed with only about 60% of our pilot group taking the time to vote. Why wasn't this 100%? If you don't like what the union is doing, then get involved... make it work for you.
To be clear, the Alaska flying was going to happen whether we wanted it or not. Alaska Air Group owns the planes and has total control over our flying and markets. Our union basically was able to implement a furlough mitigation program in exchange for some of the company's conditions on the Alaska flying (the "base within a base" concept and pilot experience requirements). Having SOME plan for reducing furloughs is a "win" in my book.
I have been here through 9/11. the 2009-2011 recession, and the current pandemic. Here's how the COMPANY and the UNION have responded to those previous downturns:
9/11: "You're furloughed! Here's the phone number for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2009-2011: "You're furloughed! Here's the web site address for the unemployment office. Don't let the door hit you on the way out".
2020: The company and the union put together a furlough mitigation program.
Finally, a union is only as strong as the pilot group. It's easy to complain about "The Union" (and, trust me, I've done plenty of it), but we all need to do our part. The furlough mitigation LOA passed with only about 60% of our pilot group taking the time to vote. Why wasn't this 100%? If you don't like what the union is doing, then get involved... make it work for you.
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